Dude Haye best win at Heavyweight is a guy a 48 year old Holyfeild beat and got robbed. I think cw is good for what it is but he pretty much fought ok guys and a freak show. Wald is a good heavy and will make it in hall but his comp not much better then the 80's really a alot of kinda ok people fighting right now. I mean reason why this shit a problem is that there was no real passing of the torch because both brothers got beat by the last generation so i kinda fucked it up and is hard to gauge because of it.