Prime Holyfield vs prime Joe Frazier

[Max Power]

Almost EVERY Wladimir opponent has a hard punch and MOST of them have good skill set to to back it up!


You are insane! They are not bums but turds.

Yes that is a very objective assessment right there.

Guys like Jerry Quarry is a quality opponent.

David Haye is a turd.

George Foreman had underrated skills..

But Bermane Stiverne is a piece of crap.

I know you don't believe any of it. It's unbelievable.

[Master]

Almost EVERY Wladimir opponent has a hard punch and MOST of them have good skill set to to back it up!


You are insane! They are not bums but turds.

Yes that is a very objective assessment right there.

Guys like Jerry Quarry is a quality opponent.

David Haye is a turd.

George Foreman had underrated skills..

But Bermane Stiverne is a piece of crap.

I know you don't believe any of it. It's unbelievable.

Haye fought like a turd against Wlad.

Stiverne has not fought Wlad yet.

[Max Power]

Almost EVERY Wladimir opponent has a hard punch and MOST of them have good skill set to to back it up!


You are insane! They are not bums but turds.

Yes that is a very objective assessment right there.

Guys like Jerry Quarry is a quality opponent.

David Haye is a turd.

George Foreman had underrated skills..

But Bermane Stiverne is a piece of crap.

I know you don't believe any of it. It's unbelievable.

Haye fought like a turd against Wlad.

Stiverne has not fought Wlad yet.

Haye looks good against his other opponents..

Basically ALL of Wlad's opponents looked good against their other opponents, but not against Wladimir.

Conclusion= It's Wlad's credit that MAKES them look bad. Klitschko's style nullifies and shuts down the opponents style.

Obviously.

[Master]

Almost EVERY Wladimir opponent has a hard punch and MOST of them have good skill set to to back it up!


You are insane! They are not bums but turds.

Yes that is a very objective assessment right there.

Guys like Jerry Quarry is a quality opponent.

David Haye is a turd.

George Foreman had underrated skills..

But Bermane Stiverne is a piece of crap.

I know you don't believe any of it. It's unbelievable.

Haye fought like a turd against Wlad.

Stiverne has not fought Wlad yet.

Haye looks good against his other opponents..

Basically ALL of Wlad's opponents looked good against their other opponents, but not against Wladimir.

Conclusion= It's Wlad's credit that MAKES them look bad. Klitschko's style nullifies and shuts down the opponents style.

Obviously.

Name some opponents that have looked good? Conversely they may have looked good because they were fighting poor opposition.

[Mr140]

Holyfeild was fucking 48 not everyone is Hopkins you should not be that competitive near that age against a fucking champ. Haye in his prime best outing at hw that was beat by a fucking man at the end of 26 year career who started at fucking lhw. Max you are a idiot say all shit i am not even saying this eras that bad but you want that extreme saying its tha best bullshit. The Older brother got his face turned into a vag by a 38 year old Lewis who was out shape last time he was in that shap fucking rahman knocked him the fuck out. Wald lost to total bum in Purty and then got lit up by Sanduars who was top 10 nothing in the 90's and did really nothing but golf after he beat Wald. Bewster fucking lost his title to a man who got knocked out by fucking Briggs telling this is the best we have had come the fuck on.

[Max Power]

Holyfeild was fucking 48 not everyone is Hopkins you should not be that competitive near that age against a fucking champ. Haye in his prime best outing at hw that was beat by a fucking man at the end of 26 year career who started at fucking lhw. Max you are a idiot say all shit i am not even saying this eras that bad but you want that extreme saying its tha best bullshit. The Older brother got his face turned into a vag by a 38 year old Lewis who was out shape last time he was in that shap fucking rahman knocked him the fuck out. Wald lost to total bum in Purty and then got lit up by Sanduars who was top 10 nothing in the 90's and did really nothing but golf after he beat Wald. Bewster fucking lost his title to a man who got knocked out by fucking Briggs telling this is the best we have had come the fuck on.

Holyfield at 48 had lost former speed and athleticism and workrate. But he maintained those other qualities. Fortunately, he had still more of these qualities to be able to match the giant Valuev. I thought it could have been a draw. Judges thought he lost!

Haye clearly beat Valuev. The problem with rating any boxer vs Valuev is that it is always a game of hit and run because of the size disparity. And any boxer is going to be fast enough to hit him. It is simply a test of tactics over 12 rounds. Of Haye, Chagaev and Holyfield, only Haye had a moment there where he nearly put the giant down.

Haye rocked up to the HW division the smallest competitor and started whacking giant boxers around and out like it was his own weight class. Basically never seen before!

Vitali punched the living shit out of Lennox at ONLY 38 which is not old, the heaviest and most experienced version of Lewis. Lennox was incredibly lucky to slash some freak cuts of VK and get stoppage. Obviously he could not beat Vitali under concventional means in a rematch and retired.

So you make excuses for LEnnox vs Rahman when no excuses exist. He was outboxed and knocked out, but you will rubbish Klitschko's for losses when there are circumstantial factors in all if them. Extreme bias.

[Mr140]

Lennox was landing pretty well in last few rounds of the fight did not go very long. 38 is fucking old dude not prime or close to it name a top guy not named the Klitschko that is good who is 38 dude. I am biased how funny that is coming from you dude Wald is your fucking god man i said he was top 10 were is my biases at. There was no passing of the torch so to say for this division at least Tyson knocked the champs out before him. Also say what you want about Larry but he beat Mercer and McCall but was robbed. Fact is there was no torch passed because Vitali failed and at his age Lewis does not owe jack shit. Wald the champ now lost fucking Purty garbage fighter and Sanders who was a contender went off to golf after owning Wald then Brewster who was out boxed sub par guys knocks out Wald then lose to a guy who got his ass knocked out of the ring by fucking Briggs yea there way ahead of there time. Vaule being a champ is a joke in it self and if you scored that fight for anyone not named Holyfeild do not know what to say because Holyfeild landed more accurate shots and doge every thing that was thrown at him.