Haye vs Holyfield

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Would the cruiserweight Holyfield have lost to a 40 year old Thompson?

He wouldn't have been decked bu Cunningham either, despite actually being a former cruiser also.

You mean Lolenga Mock.

Haye mever wanted any part of Cunningham when Steve was IBF cruiser champ.

Haye would knock Cunningham out without even breaking a sweat. They don't even play in the same league.

Holyfield is a different story.

Something like 50/50.

Your a different story.

If Mock, Thompson and Mormeck who aren't big punchers for cruiser can stop, drop, wobble Haye then Holyfield would ruin him.

Haye wouldn't get anywhere near Cunningham who has gone on to beat more undefeated fights at heavy than Haye dare face. Oh, he didn't go near any...

Out of 6 fighters at heavy they had 25 losses! Not one undefeated, Ruiz had 8 losses and some would have you believe this was a good win and a reasonable world title defence. It wasn't. It wouldn't even be a good fight for someone on the level of Joshua!

Mormeck IS a big puncher you moron. Holyfiled HIMSELF is a featherfist!

I DO think Holyfield could hurt Haye because he doesn't have the best chin. But it's also plainly obvious that Haye has all the other advantages other than speed and stamina.

Besides we're talking the best versions of each aren't we?

I see Tyson, Haye and Holyfield as a good "styles make fights" example.

I think Haye would outclass Holyfield, Holyfield stops Tyson, Tyson knocks out Haye.

Holyfield could not even outbox bloody Moorer for crying out loud!

Michael Moorer was very very good at that point, what are you on about?! He was probably the best southpaw HW ever for a time, and hit really hard himself. The Holyfield that beat Tyson would have flattened Haye imo, Haye couldn't have possibly hurt him or sustained a workrate that would allow him to win without gassing out. I'm sure it would have been a great fight, but Evan Fields had way to much in the tank to lose to Haye.

[Master]

If Max says Haye would beat Holyfield we can all safely assume the opposite is correct.

If Tyson could not knock down Holyfield then Haye would not bother him either. Evander would man handle Haye and stop him in the fight.

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If Max says Haye would beat Holyfield we can all safely assume the opposite is correct.

If Tyson could not knock down Holyfield then Haye would not bother him either. Evander would man handle Haye and stop him in the fight.

Any world class heavy would which is why Haye has no wins over world class heavies

[Mr140]

Haye not even in Holyfeilds class at hw or at cw dont even know why this brought up. Holyfeild was a puncher at cw as well don't know why max is missing that. Also like said before Moorer had hell of punch and was fast and Haye chin is shit anyhow Holyfeild by ko late most likely.

[El Kabong]

....if only Haye had been in some decent heavyweight fights in his OWN era

[#1FightFan]

Opinions at Cruiser & Heavy?

I actually think Haye might well win at both - I think he's very underated and expect to be in the minority here.

Just watching Haye vs Klitscho and it's so impressive how good Wlad is here - I sometimes wonder if he's true "golden generation" class but watching that and considering I rate Haye very highly I think he is

Thoughts?

are u serious? wlad looked good against haye? both fighters did nothing the whole fight. it was absolutely terrible, haye running and wlad not stepping it up even with a terrified opponent. sorry but wlad sucked balls.

[Max Power]

Haye not even in Holyfeilds class at hw or at cw dont even know why this brought up. Holyfeild was a puncher at cw as well don't know why max is missing that. Also like said before Moorer had hell of punch and was fast and Haye chin is shit anyhow Holyfeild by ko late most likely.

LOL Whatever.

The thread was brought up OBVIOUSLY to pump up a Lennox win and downgrade a Wladimir win.

I think David Haye was a better win than Evander Holyfield.

And I think Alexander Povetkin was a better win than Mike Tyson.

You know the 2 so called "ATG's" that he is credited for beating.

I never thought Haye would be able to knock Holyfield out. I thought he might UD him.

He is a much better boxer than Holyfield by far. His chin and stamina might fail him. I wont mention heart, because Holyfield's heart is linked to his chin and if Haye showed such "heart" he would be knocked out often.

For all you nostalgic posters, it's CHIN > FISTS.

For me I prefer FISTS > CHIN.

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Haye not even in Holyfeilds class at hw or at cw dont even know why this brought up. Holyfeild was a puncher at cw as well don't know why max is missing that. Also like said before Moorer had hell of punch and was fast and Haye chin is shit anyhow Holyfeild by ko late most likely.

LOL Whatever.

The thread was brought up OBVIOUSLY to pump up a Lennox win and downgrade a Wladimir win.

I think David Haye was a better win than Evander Holyfield.

And I think Alexander Povetkin was a better win than Mike Tyson.

You know the 2 so called "ATG's" that he is credited for beating.

I never thought Haye would be able to knock Holyfield out. I thought he might UD him.

He is a much better boxer than Holyfield by far. His chin and stamina might fail him. I wont mention heart, because Holyfield's heart is linked to his chin and if Haye showed such "heart" he would be knocked out often.

For all you nostalgic posters, it's CHIN > FISTS.

For me I prefer FISTS > CHIN.

You should stop thinking. Or at least posting what you think because its always wrong.

You think Wlad beating Haye is better than Lewis beating Holyfield, although Holyfield had unified belts and beaten actual good fighters at heavy?

You also think the same with Povetkin?

The Tyson that Holyfield fought would smash the fuck out of the Povetkin that a cruiserweight nearly stopped and had wobbling all over the ring!

Your posts get more stupid.

[oakleyno1]

Opinions at Cruiser & Heavy?

I actually think Haye might well win at both - I think he's very underated and expect to be in the minority here.

Just watching Haye vs Klitscho and it's so impressive how good Wlad is here - I sometimes wonder if he's true "golden generation" class but watching that and considering I rate Haye very highly I think he is

Thoughts?

are u serious? wlad looked good against haye? both fighters did nothing the whole fight. it was absolutely terrible, haye running and wlad not stepping it up even with a terrified opponent. sorry but wlad sucked balls.

Firstly Haye wasn't terrified - and is a huge puncher - it's not like it's Alex Lepai in there so im pretty sure thats why Wlad wouldn't go near him in terms of trying to finish a fight.

Everyone would be saying what an idiot wlad was to trade with him if he went in for the kill - when Haye was never actually hurt and then got tagged with one of Hayes extremely quick big shots and lost the fight.

Secondly I did think Wlad looked good in terms of how good he is - it wasn't a spectacle don't get me wrong lol - but to control Haye the way he did for almost all of that fight has to be respected - a bit like floyd - it was boring but super effective

[AdamGB]

If Max says Haye would beat Holyfield we can all safely assume the opposite is correct.

If Tyson could not knock down Holyfield then Haye would not bother him either. Evander would man handle Haye and stop him in the fight.

Any world class heavy would which is why Haye has no wins over world class heavies

Irony

[AdamGB]

As for Cunningham, he was put on his arse by a fat 10 fight novice and dropped twice by Amir Mansour... I think Haye stands a chance lol

[Max Power]

Haye not even in Holyfeilds class at hw or at cw dont even know why this brought up. Holyfeild was a puncher at cw as well don't know why max is missing that. Also like said before Moorer had hell of punch and was fast and Haye chin is shit anyhow Holyfeild by ko late most likely.

LOL Whatever.

The thread was brought up OBVIOUSLY to pump up a Lennox win and downgrade a Wladimir win.

I think David Haye was a better win than Evander Holyfield.

And I think Alexander Povetkin was a better win than Mike Tyson.

You know the 2 so called "ATG's" that he is credited for beating.

I never thought Haye would be able to knock Holyfield out. I thought he might UD him.

He is a much better boxer than Holyfield by far. His chin and stamina might fail him. I wont mention heart, because Holyfield's heart is linked to his chin and if Haye showed such "heart" he would be knocked out often.

For all you nostalgic posters, it's CHIN > FISTS.

For me I prefer FISTS > CHIN.

You should stop thinking. Or at least posting what you think because its always wrong.

You think Wlad beating Haye is better than Lewis beating Holyfield, although Holyfield had unified belts and beaten actual good fighters at heavy?

You also think the same with Povetkin?

The Tyson that Holyfield fought would smash the fuck out of the Povetkin that a cruiserweight nearly stopped and had wobbling all over the ring!

Your posts get more stupid.

Evander Holyfield's HW record, is 26-10.

And some of his losses are to opponents Haye did beat or to ones like Moorer, who are so useless Haye would simply knock out!

And PRIOR to losing his first fight in this division, he never got much respect! Because most considered Tyson to still be the real champ and Holyfield to be not that good at the time.

Alexander Povetkin was beaten up by a cruiser was he and hence, Tyson would beat him up ey? Povetkin BEAT a FORMER Cruiser. Tyson HIMSELF was twice STOPPED by a former Cruiser!

Mike Tyson is basically the "Black Povetkin" lol

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Would have been interesting to see a poll for this. Surely there can't be many who think haye has a chance of surviving the distance let alone winning