Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
I honestly don't give a rat's ass about impeachment. It's still in bad taste, just like everything else that comes out of that big mouth coupled with that feeble brain.

But....... I guess it IS wrong to decry the decline of world leadership quality.
I don't think so. I just think absence makes the heart grow fonder. You think THIS "Speaking ill of the dead" is bad....John Adams called Alexander Hamilton "The bastard brat of a scotch pedler", Franklin Pierce was called "pimp of the White House", John Quincy Adams called Andrew Jackson's wife an "adulteress" which are actually quite brave words considering Richard Lawrence, who attempted to assassinate President Jackson had 2 pistols misfire (thanks to the damp weather) and Jackson summarily bludgeoned him with his cane. Thomas Jefferson hired a journalist who called John Adams "hermaphriditic", a journalist called Grover Cleveland a "moral leper". And it's not just Americans that have done this...Benjamin Disraeli said of Robert Peel "The right honorable gentleman's smile was like the silver plate on a coffin", Disraeli said of William Ewart Gladstone "If Gladstone fell into the Thames, that would be a misfortune. If anyone were to pull him out, I suppose that would be a calamity". Churchill said of Lloyd George "He would make a drum out of the skin of his own mother in order to sound his own praises"...sooo yeah there's that.

I think this "Well back in the day, leaders had couth and class" is a nice sentiment, but it's not the truth. If history should teach us anything it's that there's no "The good old days" there's no "Things were more kind then" there's no "people were gentler and held themselves to a higher standard" if anything people were more brutal back then.


But that's MY take....was Trump wrong for bringing up Dingell? Probably, but no more wrong than Dingell's widow voting for impeachment.....and THAT picture will become more clear in the coming months.