10 Biggest Polluters on Earth

[El Kabong]

Engineers have in the past done a horseshit job of designing mechanisms to harness the wind and safely and efficiently convert it into electrical power. Yes... windmill failures are spectacularly visible for all to see, and provide perfect cannon fodder for those who oppose renewable energy sources. Videos of failing windmills are readily available, and I've seen others even more spectacular. It's an ongoing process. Maybe the perfect wind-harnessing mechanism is still in the future and just hasn't been envisioned yet. Maybe it's under development.

Still, the failure of one windmill has little long-term or widespread impact..... unlike these.


http://www.oceanfutures.org/news/blo...erican-history

If the technology isn't ready then why force it on people? Make it better and people will buy it. It's not efficient....NUCLEAR is hands down the most efficient why the GREEN opposition to it then? Take that and chew it over...what do the Greenies get from saying "no" to nuclear? What's the hangup they have on it?

Where did the oil come from? The Earth...mother nature is a big complex thing and this sort of thing is bound to have happened naturally before (meaning certainly oil has been released into nature in mass amounts before, it has to have) and what happened? Did the world end? Did the Oceans dry up? Did the fish vanish? NO if there's a natural mess, Mother Nature typically handles it and oftentimes comes out the better for it....forest fires (to an extent) are quite beneficial to nature, hurricanes are beneficial albeit a pain in property owners' asses, flooding can be beneficial...oil comes from the Earth and Mother Nature handles her own shit....might look bad for creatures in the direct vicinity but on the whole, not even a drop in the bucket. I'm not saying it's a brilliant thing, I'm just saying it's going to be handled regardless of what we as humans do.

https://response.restoration.noaa.go...crobes-do.html



Life finds a way

[TitoFan]

Nuclear has had some spectacular failures. It's only natural for people to become gun-shy about it. Education however, goes a long way. It's a matter of continuing to educate the public about the more stringent standards adopted by the nuclear industry, because from every failure come learning opportunities.

Wind isn't being "forced". Numerous countries across the world have adopted the technology willingly and gratefully. They probably haven't had too many people getting squished by falling windmills, I guess.

Yeah.... Mother Nature can usually be counted on to clean up many of human beings' messes. But I hardly see that as good reasoning to continue pushing the envelope and our luck along with it.

[El Kabong]

Nuclear has had some spectacular failures. It's only natural for people to become gun-shy about it. Education however, goes a long way. It's a matter of continuing to educate the public about the more stringent standards adopted by the nuclear industry, because from every failure come learning opportunities.

Wind isn't being "forced". Numerous countries across the world have adopted the technology willingly and gratefully. They probably haven't had too many people getting squished by falling windmills, I guess.

Yeah.... Mother Nature can usually be counted on to clean up many of human beings' messes. But I hardly see that as good reasoning to continue pushing the envelope and our luck along with it.

There have only been 15 events involving nuclear power that have been on the International Nuclear Event Scale and only 2 have reached the highest level. 1: Chernobyl (Communist cheapness and incompetence) and 2: Fukishima (a massive earthquake out at sea which caused a tsunami and also dropped the elevation of Fukishima it was that big of a plate movement) and only 42 people have been directly killed. The majority of those from Chernobyl. This is from 62 years of nuclear power by the way, things have only gotten safer.

Wind IS being forced, it's being subsidized out the wazoo, that's FORCE it's the force of our tax dollars backing a kind of energy which ain't all that wonderful.


Well I guess millions upon millions should look forward to death by the elements and starvation just like the old days.

[Fatboxingfan]

Listen mankind is not going to save itself. No matter what technologies or safety measures are put in mankind is going to destroy itself just like every other creature on earth destroyed itself. We think we are too big for our britches but all we are are an evolved primate with a slightly bigger forebrain bundle who launched a few satellites and landed a couple of times on the moon

[TitoFan]

Nuclear has had some spectacular failures. It's only natural for people to become gun-shy about it. Education however, goes a long way. It's a matter of continuing to educate the public about the more stringent standards adopted by the nuclear industry, because from every failure come learning opportunities.

Wind isn't being "forced". Numerous countries across the world have adopted the technology willingly and gratefully. They probably haven't had too many people getting squished by falling windmills, I guess.

Yeah.... Mother Nature can usually be counted on to clean up many of human beings' messes. But I hardly see that as good reasoning to continue pushing the envelope and our luck along with it.

There have only been 15 events involving nuclear power that have been on the International Nuclear Event Scale and only 2 have reached the highest level. 1: Chernobyl (Communist cheapness and incompetence) and 2: Fukishima (a massive earthquake out at sea which caused a tsunami and also dropped the elevation of Fukishima it was that big of a plate movement) and only 42 people have been directly killed. The majority of those from Chernobyl. This is from 62 years of nuclear power by the way, things have only gotten safer.

Wind IS being forced, it's being subsidized out the wazoo, that's FORCE it's the force of our tax dollars backing a kind of energy which ain't all that wonderful.


Well I guess millions upon millions should look forward to death by the elements and starvation just like the old days.

Maybe Trump will get re-elected and opt out of wind altogether. You know... some kind of decree or something. Meanwhile, other countries will continue to R&D the shit out of renewables and the U.S. can be left in the dust.
Coal dust, to be specific.

At least we seem to agree on nuclear.

[Fatboxingfan]

Nuclear has had some spectacular failures. It's only natural for people to become gun-shy about it. Education however, goes a long way. It's a matter of continuing to educate the public about the more stringent standards adopted by the nuclear industry, because from every failure come learning opportunities.

Wind isn't being "forced". Numerous countries across the world have adopted the technology willingly and gratefully. They probably haven't had too many people getting squished by falling windmills, I guess.

Yeah.... Mother Nature can usually be counted on to clean up many of human beings' messes. But I hardly see that as good reasoning to continue pushing the envelope and our luck along with it.

There have only been 15 events involving nuclear power that have been on the International Nuclear Event Scale and only 2 have reached the highest level. 1: Chernobyl (Communist cheapness and incompetence) and 2: Fukishima (a massive earthquake out at sea which caused a tsunami and also dropped the elevation of Fukishima it was that big of a plate movement) and only 42 people have been directly killed. The majority of those from Chernobyl. This is from 62 years of nuclear power by the way, things have only gotten safer.

Wind IS being forced, it's being subsidized out the wazoo, that's FORCE it's the force of our tax dollars backing a kind of energy which ain't all that wonderful.


Well I guess millions upon millions should look forward to death by the elements and starvation just like the old days.

Maybe Trump will get re-elected and opt out of wind altogether. You know... some kind of decree or something. Meanwhile, other countries will continue to R&D the shit out of renewables and the U.S. can be left in the dust.
Coal dust, to be specific.

At least we seem to agree on nuclear.

Wait,..... Did he just say "MAYBE" Trump will get reelected?

[TitoFan]

Nuclear has had some spectacular failures. It's only natural for people to become gun-shy about it. Education however, goes a long way. It's a matter of continuing to educate the public about the more stringent standards adopted by the nuclear industry, because from every failure come learning opportunities.

Wind isn't being "forced". Numerous countries across the world have adopted the technology willingly and gratefully. They probably haven't had too many people getting squished by falling windmills, I guess.

Yeah.... Mother Nature can usually be counted on to clean up many of human beings' messes. But I hardly see that as good reasoning to continue pushing the envelope and our luck along with it.

There have only been 15 events involving nuclear power that have been on the International Nuclear Event Scale and only 2 have reached the highest level. 1: Chernobyl (Communist cheapness and incompetence) and 2: Fukishima (a massive earthquake out at sea which caused a tsunami and also dropped the elevation of Fukishima it was that big of a plate movement) and only 42 people have been directly killed. The majority of those from Chernobyl. This is from 62 years of nuclear power by the way, things have only gotten safer.

Wind IS being forced, it's being subsidized out the wazoo, that's FORCE it's the force of our tax dollars backing a kind of energy which ain't all that wonderful.


Well I guess millions upon millions should look forward to death by the elements and starvation just like the old days.

Maybe Trump will get re-elected and opt out of wind altogether. You know... some kind of decree or something. Meanwhile, other countries will continue to R&D the shit out of renewables and the U.S. can be left in the dust.
Coal dust, to be specific.

At least we seem to agree on nuclear.

Wait,..... Did he just say "MAYBE" Trump will get reelected?

Yes I did, Broc..... er..... Fats. Only sure things in life are death and taxes.

[Fatboxingfan]

Nuclear has had some spectacular failures. It's only natural for people to become gun-shy about it. Education however, goes a long way. It's a matter of continuing to educate the public about the more stringent standards adopted by the nuclear industry, because from every failure come learning opportunities.

Wind isn't being "forced". Numerous countries across the world have adopted the technology willingly and gratefully. They probably haven't had too many people getting squished by falling windmills, I guess.

Yeah.... Mother Nature can usually be counted on to clean up many of human beings' messes. But I hardly see that as good reasoning to continue pushing the envelope and our luck along with it.

There have only been 15 events involving nuclear power that have been on the International Nuclear Event Scale and only 2 have reached the highest level. 1: Chernobyl (Communist cheapness and incompetence) and 2: Fukishima (a massive earthquake out at sea which caused a tsunami and also dropped the elevation of Fukishima it was that big of a plate movement) and only 42 people have been directly killed. The majority of those from Chernobyl. This is from 62 years of nuclear power by the way, things have only gotten safer.

Wind IS being forced, it's being subsidized out the wazoo, that's FORCE it's the force of our tax dollars backing a kind of energy which ain't all that wonderful.


Well I guess millions upon millions should look forward to death by the elements and starvation just like the old days.

Maybe Trump will get re-elected and opt out of wind altogether. You know... some kind of decree or something. Meanwhile, other countries will continue to R&D the shit out of renewables and the U.S. can be left in the dust.
Coal dust, to be specific.

At least we seem to agree on nuclear.

Wait,..... Did he just say "MAYBE" Trump will get reelected?

Yes I did, Broc..... er..... Fats. Only sure things in life are death and taxes.

True Tito. And don't take what I said about radiation spawning hurricanes the wrong way on the climate thread. But I did just read there is a correlation in a science journal of Hungary.