Can someone explain to me WHY GOMEZ gets to fight COTTO?

[MRMANICK]

Cotto deserves a gimmie Isnt he the heir apparent to Mayweather or something? Do you see Margarito taking a gimmie(technically yeah because he's just gonna make Cintron cry again)

But if Mayweather took an easy fight people would be barking to high heaven that he is ducking Cotto.

Cotto gets an easy fight and its because "he's earned it"

And if a Cotto fan tells me "thats different.. Mayweather is the number one p4p and Cotto just got here" then you're basically admitting that Floyd can't duck Cotto because you're admitting Cotto aint ready

yawn, tired and shot

anyway like other people have said its a stay busy versus a big name, if he makes a habit of this then that's one thing but as long as he follows it with a big fight its fine with me.

Majesty is right. Its not about him takin a gimmie because yes he may desrve it and yes floyd has had some gimmes but the point he is tryng to make is if floyd was fighing gomez ther would be non-stop threads critizing him but people "like" cotto so its ok for him to have gimmes. And if you think cotto is that one man that can beat floyd then that means you put him in the same class as floyd. So by that standard they should be treated the same. Cotto should be critizide for this just like floyd was when he fought mitchell.

P.S. IMO cottos first 25 opponents were "gimmes" (or at least they would be if floyd was fighting them)

[Kev]

Cotto deserves a gimmie Isnt he the heir apparent to Mayweather or something? Do you see Margarito taking a gimmie(technically yeah because he's just gonna make Cintron cry again)

But if Mayweather took an easy fight people would be barking to high heaven that he is ducking Cotto.

Cotto gets an easy fight and its because "he's earned it"

And if a Cotto fan tells me "thats different.. Mayweather is the number one p4p and Cotto just got here" then you're basically admitting that Floyd can't duck Cotto because you're admitting Cotto aint ready

yawn, tired and shot

anyway like other people have said its a stay busy versus a big name, if he makes a habit of this then that's one thing but as long as he follows it with a big fight its fine with me.

Majesty is right. Its not about him takin a gimmie because yes he may desrve it and yes floyd has had some gimmes but the point he is tryng to make is if floyd was fighing gomez ther would be non-stop threads critizing him but people "like" cotto so its ok for him to have gimmes. And if you think cotto is that one man that can beat floyd then that means you put him in the same class as floyd. So by that standard they should be treated the same. Cotto should be critizide for this just like floyd was when he fought mitchell.

P.S. IMO cottos first 25 opponents were "gimmes" (or at least they would be if floyd was fighting them)

Floyd is the universally recognised p4p number 1 fighter in the sport, he's at the pinnacle of his career and the absolute top of his game so is neccesarily held to a higher standard than Miguel Cotto.

Cotto has been a pro since 2001, Floyd turned pro in 1996.

This means that Cotto is now where Floyd was in 2003/4

Floyd's opponents after the Castillo fight then were Victoriano Sosa, Philip N'Dou, DeMarcus Corely, Henry Bruseles and Arturo Gatti.

I'm a huge fan of Floyd in the ring and believe he's deserving of the best p4p title but in being awarded that accolade you are expected to live up to it.

Cotto so far is doing very well in his career. Wins over Malignaggi, Quintana, Mosely and Judah put him at the same level near enough to where Floyd himself was in 2003.

[Rican]

Let's not forget that Cotto tried to make a mega fight with Floyd or Oscar, but both chose the safer route and decided to fight each other, this after Floyd said he was going to retire after the Hatton fight. After Floyd and Oscar, there aren't any mega fights out there for Cotto, only intriguing scraps with the likes of Margarito, Cintron, Clottey, and even Gomez. Thus, let's not criticize Cotto for taking the so called "tuneup" when he tried his best to get a mega fight.

[MRMANICK]

the public wants

Let's not forget that Cotto tried to make a mega fight with Floyd or Oscar, but both chose the safer route and decided to fight each other, this after Floyd said he was going to retire after the Hatton fight. After Floyd and Oscar, there aren't any mega fights out there for Cotto, only intriguing scraps with the likes of Margarito, Cintron, Clottey, and even Gomez. Thus, let's not criticize Cotto for taking the so called "tuneup" when he tried his best to get a mega fight.

Come on lets be real here. I didnt know cotto could talk until aout a year and a half ago. So he damn sure wasnt callin out floyd. When flyd was at 140 cotto wouldnt even dare think his name let alone call him out.He nor hatton wanted to fight then and i still dont think he really wants to fight floyd now. IMO hes just sayin this to further his career and if he gets the fight in the process ok he'll take the paycheck. But lets be honest floyd is all about money and if arum really wanted the fight he would just offered floyd 20mil and you, me, cotto and bob all know he would say yes. Its really that simple. I mean he was willin to give 8 for marg, 20 for cotto should be nothing. I wonder why he hasnt made an offer yet. cause he too is just using floyds name to build up cotto. he dont want that cause if he loses what does bob have left. He was willin to sacrifice margo but not cotto.

[MRMANICK]

yawn, tired and shot

anyway like other people have said its a stay busy versus a big name, if he makes a habit of this then that's one thing but as long as he follows it with a big fight its fine with me.

Majesty is right. Its not about him takin a gimmie because yes he may desrve it and yes floyd has had some gimmes but the point he is tryng to make is if floyd was fighing gomez ther would be non-stop threads critizing him but people "like" cotto so its ok for him to have gimmes. And if you think cotto is that one man that can beat floyd then that means you put him in the same class as floyd. So by that standard they should be treated the same. Cotto should be critizide for this just like floyd was when he fought mitchell.

P.S. IMO cottos first 25 opponents were "gimmes" (or at least they would be if floyd was fighting them)

Floyd is the universally recognised p4p number 1 fighter in the sport, he's at the pinnacle of his career and the absolute top of his game so is neccesarily held to a higher standard than Miguel Cotto.

Cotto has been a pro since 2001, Floyd turned pro in 1996.

This means that Cotto is now where Floyd was in 2003/4

Floyd's opponents after the Castillo fight then were Victoriano Sosa, Philip N'Dou, DeMarcus Corely, Henry Bruseles and Arturo Gatti.

I'm a huge fan of Floyd in the ring and believe he's deserving of the best p4p title but in being awarded that accolade you are expected to live up to it.

Cotto so far is doing very well in his career. Wins over Malignaggi, Quintana, Mosely and Judah put him at the same level near enough to where Floyd himself was in 2003.

Sorry bro but i think u wrong. cotto is where floyd was in 1998. People forget floyd was in lb4lb rankings 2 years into the game . 2 years in the game cotto was fightin cezar bazan. IMO cotto is nowhere near floyd in skill nor career but people have to make it seem that way to give him credibility as the floyd-beater. I really dont care who cotto fights. He was fightin nobodies up until judah anyway so to me this is just him revertin back to his old self. I just dont like how everyone has something negative to say about floyd when the truth is the only person in the game whos done more is maybe bernard hopkins. I just think hes done enough in his career for people to not constantly talk smack about him. Hes earned the respect already.

[eagle]

Majesty is right. Its not about him takin a gimmie because yes he may desrve it and yes floyd has had some gimmes but the point he is tryng to make is if floyd was fighing gomez ther would be non-stop threads critizing him but people "like" cotto so its ok for him to have gimmes. And if you think cotto is that one man that can beat floyd then that means you put him in the same class as floyd. So by that standard they should be treated the same. Cotto should be critizide for this just like floyd was when he fought mitchell.

P.S. IMO cottos first 25 opponents were "gimmes" (or at least they would be if floyd was fighting them)

Floyd is the universally recognised p4p number 1 fighter in the sport, he's at the pinnacle of his career and the absolute top of his game so is neccesarily held to a higher standard than Miguel Cotto.

Cotto has been a pro since 2001, Floyd turned pro in 1996.

This means that Cotto is now where Floyd was in 2003/4

Floyd's opponents after the Castillo fight then were Victoriano Sosa, Philip N'Dou, DeMarcus Corely, Henry Bruseles and Arturo Gatti.

I'm a huge fan of Floyd in the ring and believe he's deserving of the best p4p title but in being awarded that accolade you are expected to live up to it.

Cotto so far is doing very well in his career. Wins over Malignaggi, Quintana, Mosely and Judah put him at the same level near enough to where Floyd himself was in 2003.

Sorry bro but i think u wrong. cotto is where floyd was in 1998. People forget floyd was in lb4lb rankings 2 years into the game . 2 years in the game cotto was fightin cezar bazan. IMO cotto is nowhere near floyd in skill nor career but people have to make it seem that way to give him credibility as the floyd-beater. I really dont care who cotto fights. He was fightin nobodies up until judah anyway so to me this is just him revertin back to his old self. I just dont like how everyone has something negative to say about floyd when the truth is the only person in the game whos done more is maybe bernard hopkins. I just think hes done enough in his career for people to not constantly talk smack about him. Hes earned the respect already.

While i get what u are saying about how PBF would be crucified if he fought someone like Gomez i think it is a bit much to say that Cotto fought nobodies before Judah.
He dispatched Quintana easily, and Carlos has proven himself a good fighter by beating Williams.
Urkal while not being a top guy has been a tough fight for anyone, he nearly beat Tszyu on points.
Malignaggi has gone from strength to strength since fighting Cotto.
Torres is a champ.
Even guys like N'dou Abdulev and Corley arent gimme fights.

So as i said i think u are right that the Floyd haters would be going nuts if PBF fought someone like Gomez, but dont weaken your argument by saying that Cotto hasnt fought many good opponents, cos he has.

[MRMANICK]

Floyd is the universally recognised p4p number 1 fighter in the sport, he's at the pinnacle of his career and the absolute top of his game so is neccesarily held to a higher standard than Miguel Cotto.

Cotto has been a pro since 2001, Floyd turned pro in 1996.

This means that Cotto is now where Floyd was in 2003/4

Floyd's opponents after the Castillo fight then were Victoriano Sosa, Philip N'Dou, DeMarcus Corely, Henry Bruseles and Arturo Gatti.

I'm a huge fan of Floyd in the ring and believe he's deserving of the best p4p title but in being awarded that accolade you are expected to live up to it.

Cotto so far is doing very well in his career. Wins over Malignaggi, Quintana, Mosely and Judah put him at the same level near enough to where Floyd himself was in 2003.

Sorry bro but i think u wrong. cotto is where floyd was in 1998. People forget floyd was in lb4lb rankings 2 years into the game . 2 years in the game cotto was fightin cezar bazan. IMO cotto is nowhere near floyd in skill nor career but people have to make it seem that way to give him credibility as the floyd-beater. I really dont care who cotto fights. He was fightin nobodies up until judah anyway so to me this is just him revertin back to his old self. I just dont like how everyone has something negative to say about floyd when the truth is the only person in the game whos done more is maybe bernard hopkins. I just think hes done enough in his career for people to not constantly talk smack about him. Hes earned the respect already.

While i get what u are saying about how PBF would be crucified if he fought someone like Gomez i think it is a bit much to say that Cotto fought nobodies before Judah.
He dispatched Quintana easily, and Carlos has proven himself a good fighter by beating Williams.
Urkal while not being a top guy has been a tough fight for anyone, he nearly beat Tszyu on points.
Malignaggi has gone from strength to strength since fighting Cotto.
Torres is a champ.
Even guys like N'dou Abdulev and Corley arent gimme fights.

So as i said i think u are right that the Floyd haters would be going nuts if PBF fought someone like Gomez, but dont weaken your argument by saying that Cotto hasnt fought many good opponents, cos he has.

Your right let me change that. he wasnt fightin nobodies. Lets just he was fightin weak opposition. I mean its no secret that after corley rocked him that he was matched up with featherfisted fighters until judah. I just see it like this if u can land clean on cotto u can hurt him and for that reason he dont need to be in the ring with floyd cause floyd will land more than judah and mosley. I dont have a problem with cotto. I like his style but when guys like him get beat its usually 9 out of 10 time a guy with floyds style who beats him.

[Kev]

Sorry bro but i think u wrong. cotto is where floyd was in 1998. People forget floyd was in lb4lb rankings 2 years into the game . 2 years in the game cotto was fightin cezar bazan. IMO cotto is nowhere near floyd in skill nor career but people have to make it seem that way to give him credibility as the floyd-beater. I really dont care who cotto fights. He was fightin nobodies up until judah anyway so to me this is just him revertin back to his old self. I just dont like how everyone has something negative to say about floyd when the truth is the only person in the game whos done more is maybe bernard hopkins. I just think hes done enough in his career for people to not constantly talk smack about him. Hes earned the respect already.

While i get what u are saying about how PBF would be crucified if he fought someone like Gomez i think it is a bit much to say that Cotto fought nobodies before Judah.
He dispatched Quintana easily, and Carlos has proven himself a good fighter by beating Williams.
Urkal while not being a top guy has been a tough fight for anyone, he nearly beat Tszyu on points.
Malignaggi has gone from strength to strength since fighting Cotto.
Torres is a champ.
Even guys like N'dou Abdulev and Corley arent gimme fights.

So as i said i think u are right that the Floyd haters would be going nuts if PBF fought someone like Gomez, but dont weaken your argument by saying that Cotto hasnt fought many good opponents, cos he has.

Your right let me change that. he wasnt fightin nobodies. Lets just he was fightin weak opposition. I mean its no secret that after corley rocked him that he was matched up with featherfisted fighters until judah. I just see it like this if u can land clean on cotto u can hurt him and for that reason he dont need to be in the ring with floyd cause floyd will land more than judah and mosley. I dont have a problem with cotto. I like his style but when guys like him get beat its usually 9 out of 10 time a guy with floyds style who beats him.

What do you mean his next two fights were against Abduleuv and Torres both with about 90% ko percentages

[eagle]

While i get what u are saying about how PBF would be crucified if he fought someone like Gomez i think it is a bit much to say that Cotto fought nobodies before Judah.
He dispatched Quintana easily, and Carlos has proven himself a good fighter by beating Williams.
Urkal while not being a top guy has been a tough fight for anyone, he nearly beat Tszyu on points.
Malignaggi has gone from strength to strength since fighting Cotto.
Torres is a champ.
Even guys like N'dou Abdulev and Corley arent gimme fights.

So as i said i think u are right that the Floyd haters would be going nuts if PBF fought someone like Gomez, but dont weaken your argument by saying that Cotto hasnt fought many good opponents, cos he has.

Your right let me change that. he wasnt fightin nobodies. Lets just he was fightin weak opposition. I mean its no secret that after corley rocked him that he was matched up with featherfisted fighters until judah. I just see it like this if u can land clean on cotto u can hurt him and for that reason he dont need to be in the ring with floyd cause floyd will land more than judah and mosley. I dont have a problem with cotto. I like his style but when guys like him get beat its usually 9 out of 10 time a guy with floyds style who beats him.

What do you mean his next two fights were against Abduleuv and Torres both with about 90% ko percentages

I agree, and Quintana is hardly feather fisted either.

[OumaFan]

yawn, tired and shot

anyway like other people have said its a stay busy versus a big name, if he makes a habit of this then that's one thing but as long as he follows it with a big fight its fine with me.

Majesty is right. Its not about him takin a gimmie because yes he may desrve it and yes floyd has had some gimmes but the point he is tryng to make is if floyd was fighing gomez ther would be non-stop threads critizing him but people "like" cotto so its ok for him to have gimmes. And if you think cotto is that one man that can beat floyd then that means you put him in the same class as floyd. So by that standard they should be treated the same. Cotto should be critizide for this just like floyd was when he fought mitchell.

P.S. IMO cottos first 25 opponents were "gimmes" (or at least they would be if floyd was fighting them)

Floyd is the universally recognised p4p number 1 fighter in the sport, he's at the pinnacle of his career and the absolute top of his game so is neccesarily held to a higher standard than Miguel Cotto.

Its not rocket science.

Whether you think its unfair or not, the top guy in a sport is always held to a higher standard. There was a time when I criticized Floyd's competition but I don't anymore (although the news about him possibly wanting a Hatton rematch did make me throw up in my mouth a little) and he's at the point in his career where only big fights are worthy of his time. Cotto's not far from there but he's not on that level yet. If he takes two gimmes in a row then that's another story but as long as he goes back to making big fights next time out then I don't see what the problem is.

"Cotto should be critizide for this just like floyd was when he fought mitchell"

Floyd had just fought N'dou, Corley, Bruseles and Gatti. Cotto has fought Quintana, Urkal, Judah, and Mosley. Its not the same thing. And people were as much annoyed with Floyd for just skipping past 140. The saving grace for the Mitchell fight was that it was Floyd's first at 147 so a easier fight at a new weight class isn't as bad as one at the one you've been fighting at.

[MRMANICK]

Majesty is right. Its not about him takin a gimmie because yes he may desrve it and yes floyd has had some gimmes but the point he is tryng to make is if floyd was fighing gomez ther would be non-stop threads critizing him but people "like" cotto so its ok for him to have gimmes. And if you think cotto is that one man that can beat floyd then that means you put him in the same class as floyd. So by that standard they should be treated the same. Cotto should be critizide for this just like floyd was when he fought mitchell.

P.S. IMO cottos first 25 opponents were "gimmes" (or at least they would be if floyd was fighting them)

Floyd is the universally recognised p4p number 1 fighter in the sport, he's at the pinnacle of his career and the absolute top of his game so is neccesarily held to a higher standard than Miguel Cotto.

Its not rocket science.

Whether you think its unfair or not, the top guy in a sport is always held to a higher standard. There was a time when I criticized Floyd's competition but I don't anymore (although the news about him possibly wanting a Hatton rematch did make me throw up in my mouth a little) and he's at the point in his career where only big fights are worthy of his time. Cotto's not far from there but he's not on that level yet. If he takes two gimmes in a row then that's another story but as long as he goes back to making big fights next time out then I don't see what the problem is.

"Cotto should be critizide for this just like floyd was when he fought mitchell"

Floyd had just fought N'dou, Corley, Bruseles and Gatti. Cotto has fought Quintana, Urkal, Judah, and Mosley. Its not the same thing. And people were as much annoyed with Floyd for just skipping past 140. The saving grace for the Mitchell fight was that it was Floyd's first at 147 so a easier fight at a new weight class isn't as bad as one at the one you've been fighting at.

Ok but at 140 lookin back in hindsight who was he suppose to fight. Cotto or hatton? Did they really wanna fight floyd then. I dont think so.