Can someone explain to me WHY GOMEZ gets to fight COTTO?

[OumaFan]

Cotto deserves a gimmie Isnt he the heir apparent to Mayweather or something? Do you see Margarito taking a gimmie(technically yeah because he's just gonna make Cintron cry again)

But if Mayweather took an easy fight people would be barking to high heaven that he is ducking Cotto.

Cotto gets an easy fight and its because "he's earned it"

And if a Cotto fan tells me "thats different.. Mayweather is the number one p4p and Cotto just got here" then you're basically admitting that Floyd can't duck Cotto because you're admitting Cotto aint ready

yawn, tired and shot

anyway like other people have said its a stay busy versus a big name, if he makes a habit of this then that's one thing but as long as he follows it with a big fight its fine with me.

[MRMANICK]

Cotto deserves a gimmie Isnt he the heir apparent to Mayweather or something? Do you see Margarito taking a gimmie(technically yeah because he's just gonna make Cintron cry again)

But if Mayweather took an easy fight people would be barking to high heaven that he is ducking Cotto.

Cotto gets an easy fight and its because "he's earned it"

And if a Cotto fan tells me "thats different.. Mayweather is the number one p4p and Cotto just got here" then you're basically admitting that Floyd can't duck Cotto because you're admitting Cotto aint ready

yawn, tired and shot

anyway like other people have said its a stay busy versus a big name, if he makes a habit of this then that's one thing but as long as he follows it with a big fight its fine with me.

Majesty is right. Its not about him takin a gimmie because yes he may desrve it and yes floyd has had some gimmes but the point he is tryng to make is if floyd was fighing gomez ther would be non-stop threads critizing him but people "like" cotto so its ok for him to have gimmes. And if you think cotto is that one man that can beat floyd then that means you put him in the same class as floyd. So by that standard they should be treated the same. Cotto should be critizide for this just like floyd was when he fought mitchell.

P.S. IMO cottos first 25 opponents were "gimmes" (or at least they would be if floyd was fighting them)

[Kev]

Cotto deserves a gimmie Isnt he the heir apparent to Mayweather or something? Do you see Margarito taking a gimmie(technically yeah because he's just gonna make Cintron cry again)

But if Mayweather took an easy fight people would be barking to high heaven that he is ducking Cotto.

Cotto gets an easy fight and its because "he's earned it"

And if a Cotto fan tells me "thats different.. Mayweather is the number one p4p and Cotto just got here" then you're basically admitting that Floyd can't duck Cotto because you're admitting Cotto aint ready

yawn, tired and shot

anyway like other people have said its a stay busy versus a big name, if he makes a habit of this then that's one thing but as long as he follows it with a big fight its fine with me.

Majesty is right. Its not about him takin a gimmie because yes he may desrve it and yes floyd has had some gimmes but the point he is tryng to make is if floyd was fighing gomez ther would be non-stop threads critizing him but people "like" cotto so its ok for him to have gimmes. And if you think cotto is that one man that can beat floyd then that means you put him in the same class as floyd. So by that standard they should be treated the same. Cotto should be critizide for this just like floyd was when he fought mitchell.

P.S. IMO cottos first 25 opponents were "gimmes" (or at least they would be if floyd was fighting them)

Floyd is the universally recognised p4p number 1 fighter in the sport, he's at the pinnacle of his career and the absolute top of his game so is neccesarily held to a higher standard than Miguel Cotto.

Cotto has been a pro since 2001, Floyd turned pro in 1996.

This means that Cotto is now where Floyd was in 2003/4

Floyd's opponents after the Castillo fight then were Victoriano Sosa, Philip N'Dou, DeMarcus Corely, Henry Bruseles and Arturo Gatti.

I'm a huge fan of Floyd in the ring and believe he's deserving of the best p4p title but in being awarded that accolade you are expected to live up to it.

Cotto so far is doing very well in his career. Wins over Malignaggi, Quintana, Mosely and Judah put him at the same level near enough to where Floyd himself was in 2003.

[Rican]

Let's not forget that Cotto tried to make a mega fight with Floyd or Oscar, but both chose the safer route and decided to fight each other, this after Floyd said he was going to retire after the Hatton fight. After Floyd and Oscar, there aren't any mega fights out there for Cotto, only intriguing scraps with the likes of Margarito, Cintron, Clottey, and even Gomez. Thus, let's not criticize Cotto for taking the so called "tuneup" when he tried his best to get a mega fight.

[MRMANICK]

yawn, tired and shot

anyway like other people have said its a stay busy versus a big name, if he makes a habit of this then that's one thing but as long as he follows it with a big fight its fine with me.

Majesty is right. Its not about him takin a gimmie because yes he may desrve it and yes floyd has had some gimmes but the point he is tryng to make is if floyd was fighing gomez ther would be non-stop threads critizing him but people "like" cotto so its ok for him to have gimmes. And if you think cotto is that one man that can beat floyd then that means you put him in the same class as floyd. So by that standard they should be treated the same. Cotto should be critizide for this just like floyd was when he fought mitchell.

P.S. IMO cottos first 25 opponents were "gimmes" (or at least they would be if floyd was fighting them)

Floyd is the universally recognised p4p number 1 fighter in the sport, he's at the pinnacle of his career and the absolute top of his game so is neccesarily held to a higher standard than Miguel Cotto.

Cotto has been a pro since 2001, Floyd turned pro in 1996.

This means that Cotto is now where Floyd was in 2003/4

Floyd's opponents after the Castillo fight then were Victoriano Sosa, Philip N'Dou, DeMarcus Corely, Henry Bruseles and Arturo Gatti.

I'm a huge fan of Floyd in the ring and believe he's deserving of the best p4p title but in being awarded that accolade you are expected to live up to it.

Cotto so far is doing very well in his career. Wins over Malignaggi, Quintana, Mosely and Judah put him at the same level near enough to where Floyd himself was in 2003.

Sorry bro but i think u wrong. cotto is where floyd was in 1998. People forget floyd was in lb4lb rankings 2 years into the game . 2 years in the game cotto was fightin cezar bazan. IMO cotto is nowhere near floyd in skill nor career but people have to make it seem that way to give him credibility as the floyd-beater. I really dont care who cotto fights. He was fightin nobodies up until judah anyway so to me this is just him revertin back to his old self. I just dont like how everyone has something negative to say about floyd when the truth is the only person in the game whos done more is maybe bernard hopkins. I just think hes done enough in his career for people to not constantly talk smack about him. Hes earned the respect already.

[MRMANICK]

the public wants

Let's not forget that Cotto tried to make a mega fight with Floyd or Oscar, but both chose the safer route and decided to fight each other, this after Floyd said he was going to retire after the Hatton fight. After Floyd and Oscar, there aren't any mega fights out there for Cotto, only intriguing scraps with the likes of Margarito, Cintron, Clottey, and even Gomez. Thus, let's not criticize Cotto for taking the so called "tuneup" when he tried his best to get a mega fight.

Come on lets be real here. I didnt know cotto could talk until aout a year and a half ago. So he damn sure wasnt callin out floyd. When flyd was at 140 cotto wouldnt even dare think his name let alone call him out.He nor hatton wanted to fight then and i still dont think he really wants to fight floyd now. IMO hes just sayin this to further his career and if he gets the fight in the process ok he'll take the paycheck. But lets be honest floyd is all about money and if arum really wanted the fight he would just offered floyd 20mil and you, me, cotto and bob all know he would say yes. Its really that simple. I mean he was willin to give 8 for marg, 20 for cotto should be nothing. I wonder why he hasnt made an offer yet. cause he too is just using floyds name to build up cotto. he dont want that cause if he loses what does bob have left. He was willin to sacrifice margo but not cotto.

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Majesty is right. Its not about him takin a gimmie because yes he may desrve it and yes floyd has had some gimmes but the point he is tryng to make is if floyd was fighing gomez ther would be non-stop threads critizing him but people "like" cotto so its ok for him to have gimmes. And if you think cotto is that one man that can beat floyd then that means you put him in the same class as floyd. So by that standard they should be treated the same. Cotto should be critizide for this just like floyd was when he fought mitchell.

P.S. IMO cottos first 25 opponents were "gimmes" (or at least they would be if floyd was fighting them)

Floyd is the universally recognised p4p number 1 fighter in the sport, he's at the pinnacle of his career and the absolute top of his game so is neccesarily held to a higher standard than Miguel Cotto.

Cotto has been a pro since 2001, Floyd turned pro in 1996.

This means that Cotto is now where Floyd was in 2003/4

Floyd's opponents after the Castillo fight then were Victoriano Sosa, Philip N'Dou, DeMarcus Corely, Henry Bruseles and Arturo Gatti.

I'm a huge fan of Floyd in the ring and believe he's deserving of the best p4p title but in being awarded that accolade you are expected to live up to it.

Cotto so far is doing very well in his career. Wins over Malignaggi, Quintana, Mosely and Judah put him at the same level near enough to where Floyd himself was in 2003.

Sorry bro but i think u wrong. cotto is where floyd was in 1998. People forget floyd was in lb4lb rankings 2 years into the game . 2 years in the game cotto was fightin cezar bazan. IMO cotto is nowhere near floyd in skill nor career but people have to make it seem that way to give him credibility as the floyd-beater. I really dont care who cotto fights. He was fightin nobodies up until judah anyway so to me this is just him revertin back to his old self. I just dont like how everyone has something negative to say about floyd when the truth is the only person in the game whos done more is maybe bernard hopkins. I just think hes done enough in his career for people to not constantly talk smack about him. Hes earned the respect already.

While i get what u are saying about how PBF would be crucified if he fought someone like Gomez i think it is a bit much to say that Cotto fought nobodies before Judah.
He dispatched Quintana easily, and Carlos has proven himself a good fighter by beating Williams.
Urkal while not being a top guy has been a tough fight for anyone, he nearly beat Tszyu on points.
Malignaggi has gone from strength to strength since fighting Cotto.
Torres is a champ.
Even guys like N'dou Abdulev and Corley arent gimme fights.

So as i said i think u are right that the Floyd haters would be going nuts if PBF fought someone like Gomez, but dont weaken your argument by saying that Cotto hasnt fought many good opponents, cos he has.

[Majesty]

LOL everyone needs to read carefully the wording of the title of this thread!


it says why does Gomez get to fight cotto, meaning im implying he does not derserve to fight cotto right now.


im not criticizing cotto, i love cotto hes the MAN! i wish more fighters brought it every single time like he does to all of his fights. he ducks no one and he fight so often!

that is why cotto is the MAN!

What does deserving even have to do with it though?

Boxing has NEVER been decided on merit, boxers have ALWAYS chosen their opponents. Asking if Gomez deserves to fight Cotto is like asking if someone deserved to win the lottery, mandatories aside boxing has never been a meritocracy.

It's pointless because the vast majority of matchmaking is based on the favoured fighter getting an opponent that will entertain the crowd, and be as big a commerical draw as possible whilst posing the minimum level of risk.

Every top fighter has a carefully managed career and it's the job if his team to ensure he doesn't get upset in between the real big fights. Cotto has fought two career defining fights back to back and without a real big name opponent to face now he's been given a popular name opponent who shouldn't pose too much risk to his 0. That's plain common sense and whether Gomez is deserving or not is just a meaningless question to ask.

He fits all the criteria for a popular, fan friendly name opponent whilst being relatively low risk.

Gomez is known all around the world, he has an exciting style and is a popular charaacter with his never say die, underdog story.

It's a fight that was begging to be made, a nice payday for both, a fan friendly fight and a fight that should hopefully see Cotto put on a show and not upset the apple cart and ruin a potential mega fight with Margarito and later Mayweather down the line.

I have no problems with this fight whatsoever.

10 star response!!!

[MRMANICK]

Floyd is the universally recognised p4p number 1 fighter in the sport, he's at the pinnacle of his career and the absolute top of his game so is neccesarily held to a higher standard than Miguel Cotto.

Cotto has been a pro since 2001, Floyd turned pro in 1996.

This means that Cotto is now where Floyd was in 2003/4

Floyd's opponents after the Castillo fight then were Victoriano Sosa, Philip N'Dou, DeMarcus Corely, Henry Bruseles and Arturo Gatti.

I'm a huge fan of Floyd in the ring and believe he's deserving of the best p4p title but in being awarded that accolade you are expected to live up to it.

Cotto so far is doing very well in his career. Wins over Malignaggi, Quintana, Mosely and Judah put him at the same level near enough to where Floyd himself was in 2003.

Sorry bro but i think u wrong. cotto is where floyd was in 1998. People forget floyd was in lb4lb rankings 2 years into the game . 2 years in the game cotto was fightin cezar bazan. IMO cotto is nowhere near floyd in skill nor career but people have to make it seem that way to give him credibility as the floyd-beater. I really dont care who cotto fights. He was fightin nobodies up until judah anyway so to me this is just him revertin back to his old self. I just dont like how everyone has something negative to say about floyd when the truth is the only person in the game whos done more is maybe bernard hopkins. I just think hes done enough in his career for people to not constantly talk smack about him. Hes earned the respect already.

While i get what u are saying about how PBF would be crucified if he fought someone like Gomez i think it is a bit much to say that Cotto fought nobodies before Judah.
He dispatched Quintana easily, and Carlos has proven himself a good fighter by beating Williams.
Urkal while not being a top guy has been a tough fight for anyone, he nearly beat Tszyu on points.
Malignaggi has gone from strength to strength since fighting Cotto.
Torres is a champ.
Even guys like N'dou Abdulev and Corley arent gimme fights.

So as i said i think u are right that the Floyd haters would be going nuts if PBF fought someone like Gomez, but dont weaken your argument by saying that Cotto hasnt fought many good opponents, cos he has.

Your right let me change that. he wasnt fightin nobodies. Lets just he was fightin weak opposition. I mean its no secret that after corley rocked him that he was matched up with featherfisted fighters until judah. I just see it like this if u can land clean on cotto u can hurt him and for that reason he dont need to be in the ring with floyd cause floyd will land more than judah and mosley. I dont have a problem with cotto. I like his style but when guys like him get beat its usually 9 out of 10 time a guy with floyds style who beats him.

[Kev]

Sorry bro but i think u wrong. cotto is where floyd was in 1998. People forget floyd was in lb4lb rankings 2 years into the game . 2 years in the game cotto was fightin cezar bazan. IMO cotto is nowhere near floyd in skill nor career but people have to make it seem that way to give him credibility as the floyd-beater. I really dont care who cotto fights. He was fightin nobodies up until judah anyway so to me this is just him revertin back to his old self. I just dont like how everyone has something negative to say about floyd when the truth is the only person in the game whos done more is maybe bernard hopkins. I just think hes done enough in his career for people to not constantly talk smack about him. Hes earned the respect already.

While i get what u are saying about how PBF would be crucified if he fought someone like Gomez i think it is a bit much to say that Cotto fought nobodies before Judah.
He dispatched Quintana easily, and Carlos has proven himself a good fighter by beating Williams.
Urkal while not being a top guy has been a tough fight for anyone, he nearly beat Tszyu on points.
Malignaggi has gone from strength to strength since fighting Cotto.
Torres is a champ.
Even guys like N'dou Abdulev and Corley arent gimme fights.

So as i said i think u are right that the Floyd haters would be going nuts if PBF fought someone like Gomez, but dont weaken your argument by saying that Cotto hasnt fought many good opponents, cos he has.

Your right let me change that. he wasnt fightin nobodies. Lets just he was fightin weak opposition. I mean its no secret that after corley rocked him that he was matched up with featherfisted fighters until judah. I just see it like this if u can land clean on cotto u can hurt him and for that reason he dont need to be in the ring with floyd cause floyd will land more than judah and mosley. I dont have a problem with cotto. I like his style but when guys like him get beat its usually 9 out of 10 time a guy with floyds style who beats him.

What do you mean his next two fights were against Abduleuv and Torres both with about 90% ko percentages

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While i get what u are saying about how PBF would be crucified if he fought someone like Gomez i think it is a bit much to say that Cotto fought nobodies before Judah.
He dispatched Quintana easily, and Carlos has proven himself a good fighter by beating Williams.
Urkal while not being a top guy has been a tough fight for anyone, he nearly beat Tszyu on points.
Malignaggi has gone from strength to strength since fighting Cotto.
Torres is a champ.
Even guys like N'dou Abdulev and Corley arent gimme fights.

So as i said i think u are right that the Floyd haters would be going nuts if PBF fought someone like Gomez, but dont weaken your argument by saying that Cotto hasnt fought many good opponents, cos he has.

Your right let me change that. he wasnt fightin nobodies. Lets just he was fightin weak opposition. I mean its no secret that after corley rocked him that he was matched up with featherfisted fighters until judah. I just see it like this if u can land clean on cotto u can hurt him and for that reason he dont need to be in the ring with floyd cause floyd will land more than judah and mosley. I dont have a problem with cotto. I like his style but when guys like him get beat its usually 9 out of 10 time a guy with floyds style who beats him.

What do you mean his next two fights were against Abduleuv and Torres both with about 90% ko percentages

I agree, and Quintana is hardly feather fisted either.

[MRMANICK]

Your right let me change that. he wasnt fightin nobodies. Lets just he was fightin weak opposition. I mean its no secret that after corley rocked him that he was matched up with featherfisted fighters until judah. I just see it like this if u can land clean on cotto u can hurt him and for that reason he dont need to be in the ring with floyd cause floyd will land more than judah and mosley. I dont have a problem with cotto. I like his style but when guys like him get beat its usually 9 out of 10 time a guy with floyds style who beats him.

What do you mean his next two fights were against Abduleuv and Torres both with about 90% ko percentages

I agree, and Quintana is hardly feather fisted either.

Come on guy your pinching at straws here. U know a fighters ko percentage doesnt necessarily have anything to do with power or even there opponents. I dont think torres is a big puncher.Who has he knocked out. Oh i get it cause he was able to knock down Miguel Cotto he must have power right even though cotto was damn near out on his feet against corley. i dont think the kd he got on cotto was even genuine. Abduleuv who?u cant be serious. Quintana? please upload the fight that shows his awesome power cause i never seen it. like i said stop pinching at straws i gave u judah and mosley. Come on be honest did u think that before any of these fights any of these guys was gonna knock cotto out? no u didnt. they were safe fights that he just made harder than they needed to be

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What do you mean his next two fights were against Abduleuv and Torres both with about 90% ko percentages

I agree, and Quintana is hardly feather fisted either.

Come on guy your pinching at straws here. U know a fighters ko percentage doesnt necessarily have anything to do with power or even there opponents. I dont think torres is a big puncher.Who has he knocked out. Oh i get it cause he was able to knock down Miguel Cotto he must have power right even though cotto was damn near out on his feet against corley. i dont think the kd he got on cotto was even genuine. Abduleuv who?u cant be serious. Quintana? please upload the fight that shows his awesome power cause i never seen it. like i said stop pinching at straws i gave u judah and mosley. Come on be honest did u think that before any of these fights any of these guys was gonna knock cotto out? no u didnt. they were safe fights that he just made harder than they needed to be

Well if KO percentage dont tell u how powerful a guy is what does? Seems a pretty good gauge to me....

[MRMANICK]

I agree, and Quintana is hardly feather fisted either.

Come on guy your pinching at straws here. U know a fighters ko percentage doesnt necessarily have anything to do with power or even there opponents. I dont think torres is a big puncher.Who has he knocked out. Oh i get it cause he was able to knock down Miguel Cotto he must have power right even though cotto was damn near out on his feet against corley. i dont think the kd he got on cotto was even genuine. Abduleuv who?u cant be serious. Quintana? please upload the fight that shows his awesome power cause i never seen it. like i said stop pinching at straws i gave u judah and mosley. Come on be honest did u think that before any of these fights any of these guys was gonna knock cotto out? no u didnt. they were safe fights that he just made harder than they needed to be

Well if KO percentage dont tell u how powerful a guy is what does? Seems a pretty good gauge to me....

Your killin me now. If a guys knocks out 25 cab drivers that u never saw before does that really mean he has power. Winky wright stopped 18 of his first 25 opponents and everybody know he dont have power. But i get what u sayin. If you dont see the fighter fight the fight u dont really know. But when i see a guy with a high ko perentage i dont assume he has power. i just assume that he tries to get guys out of there. U gota remember they dont seperate kos and tkos when they show a record. I mean a guy could have 25 ko but 15 of them was tkos that were built up from accumulation. So that do necessarily mean he has power. U hit a rock long enough and eventually it will crack.

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Come on guy your pinching at straws here. U know a fighters ko percentage doesnt necessarily have anything to do with power or even there opponents. I dont think torres is a big puncher.Who has he knocked out. Oh i get it cause he was able to knock down Miguel Cotto he must have power right even though cotto was damn near out on his feet against corley. i dont think the kd he got on cotto was even genuine. Abduleuv who?u cant be serious. Quintana? please upload the fight that shows his awesome power cause i never seen it. like i said stop pinching at straws i gave u judah and mosley. Come on be honest did u think that before any of these fights any of these guys was gonna knock cotto out? no u didnt. they were safe fights that he just made harder than they needed to be

Well if KO percentage dont tell u how powerful a guy is what does? Seems a pretty good gauge to me....

Your killin me now. If a guys knocks out 25 cab drivers that u never saw before does that really mean he has power. Winky wright stopped 18 of his first 25 opponents and everybody know he dont have power. But i get what u sayin. If you dont see the fighter fight the fight u dont really know. But when i see a guy with a high ko perentage i dont assume he has power. i just assume that he tries to get guys out of there. U gota remember they dont seperate kos and tkos when they show a record. I mean a guy could have 25 ko but 15 of them was tkos that were built up from accumulation. So that do necessarily mean he has power. U hit a rock long enough and eventually it will crack.

Again if u dont go by KO percentage how do u judge a guys power if u havent actually been hit by him? Especially if u havent seen him much before?