Simulated Pavlik Calzaghe fight. here is the result.

[Violent Demise]

I know enough about Brewers career.

He was the IBF "world" supermiddleweight champion. Is that NOT a FACT?

I've NEVER once stated whether I believe he was any good or not.

Good to see your easily brain washed by the organizations. Seriously answered me this, how can one be called a "World Champion" if he never beat another world champion for the belt? Is it because they tell you he's a world champion? Is that it? So I guess if they told you he was a future Hall of Famer would you consider him a future Hall of Famer as well?

Hey didn't you understand my other post? Thought I made it clear.

I personally only EVER consider one champion per divison. Alphabet titles, whether it's the WBC, WBA, WBO or IBF don't mean shit. It's the fighter that makes the belt.

I'm merely stating a FACT that Charles Brewer was the IBF "world" Champion. That is a Fact.

So if the IBF decided to give Audley Harrison there title would you consider Harrison a IBF World Heavyweight champion? Despite the fact that he never beat a champion for it?

[Fenster]

Good to see your easily brain washed by the organizations. Seriously answered me this, how can one be called a "World Champion" if he never beat another world champion for the belt? Is it because they tell you he's a world champion? Is that it? So I guess if they told you he was a future Hall of Famer would you consider him a future Hall of Famer as well?

Hey didn't you understand my other post? Thought I made it clear.

I personally only EVER consider one champion per divison. Alphabet titles, whether it's the WBC, WBA, WBO or IBF don't mean shit. It's the fighter that makes the belt.

I'm merely stating a FACT that Charles Brewer was the IBF "world" Champion. That is a Fact.

So if the IBF decided to give Audley Harrison there title would you consider Harrison a IBF World Heavyweight champion? Despite the fact that he never beat a champion for it?

If the IBF made Harrison their "world" champion he would be their "world" champion.

Having to beat their IBF champion is irrelevant. I wouldn't class Audley as the real WORLD champion unless he beat the guy considered as the real WORLD champion.

[Markusdarkus]

Hey didn't you understand my other post? Thought I made it clear.

I personally only EVER consider one champion per divison. Alphabet titles, whether it's the WBC, WBA, WBO or IBF don't mean shit. It's the fighter that makes the belt.

I'm merely stating a FACT that Charles Brewer was the IBF "world" Champion. That is a Fact.

So if the IBF decided to give Audley Harrison there title would you consider Harrison a IBF World Heavyweight champion? Despite the fact that he never beat a champion for it?

If the IBF made Harrison their "world" champion he would be their "world" champion.

Having to beat their IBF champion is irrelevant. I wouldn't class Audley as the real WORLD champion unless he beat the guy considered as the real WORLD champion.

Anyone that knows boxing (not a hater) knows Brewer was no journeyman.

He beat Ottke twice and knocked out Herol Graham.

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Charles Brewer was an exciting fighter but he was just a goodish fighter at best and he had a suspect chin remember Herol Graham who is feather fisted and was about 8 years past his prime had Charles Brewer on the canvas twice........

And the fact that Charles Brewer has stated that he don't actually like boxing and only thinks of it as a business makes me question his heart in boxing i still can't believe how he couldn't finish a past his prime Antwun Echols when he had him down 3 times.

[Markusdarkus]

Charles Brewer was an exciting fighter but he was just a goodish fighter at best and he had a suspect chin remember Herol Graham who is feather fisted and was about 8 years past his prime had Charles Brewer on the canvas twice........

And the fact that Charles Brewer has stated that he don't actually like boxing and only thinks of it as a business makes me question his heart in boxing i still can't believe how he couldn't finish a past his prime Antwun Echols when he had him down 3 times.

Herol Graham feather fisted?

WTF, thats the most stupid statement today, congratulations!

Mr featherfisted had McCallum on queer street and had Jackson saying "I aine never been hurt like that every punch felt like he was hitting me with a brick, i had to catch him i knew i would have lost"

[ssss]

Charles Brewer was an exciting fighter but he was just a goodish fighter at best and he had a suspect chin remember Herol Graham who is feather fisted and was about 8 years past his prime had Charles Brewer on the canvas twice........

And the fact that Charles Brewer has stated that he don't actually like boxing and only thinks of it as a business makes me question his heart in boxing i still can't believe how he couldn't finish a past his prime Antwun Echols when he had him down 3 times.

Herol Graham feather fisted?

WTF, thats the most stupid statement today, congratulations!

Mr featherfisted had McCallum on queer street and had Jackson saying "I aine never been hurt like that every punch felt like he was hitting me with a brick, i had to catch him i knew i would have lost"

Don't insult me about something you know nothing about do you know why he was nicknamed "Bomber" ? too fool his opponents into believing he was he was a hard hitting brawler when infact he was a good boxer with a lack of punching power which has been stated by Herol Graham and his trainer........

Maybe feather fisted was the wrong word but he certainly isn't a hard hitter and his record proves this and as for Mike McCallum he was never in any trouble with Herol Graham he just had a hard time dealing with Herol Graham's style.......

And as for Julian Jackson he had not long had surgery on his detatched retina if i remember rightly ? i have seen the fight many times and Herol Graham boxed rings around Julian Jackson and landed alot of fast good punchers but none of his punches were real *power punches* and basically Julian Jackson was having problems with his old detatched retina which is a known fact.

[Markusdarkus]

Charles Brewer was an exciting fighter but he was just a goodish fighter at best and he had a suspect chin remember Herol Graham who is feather fisted and was about 8 years past his prime had Charles Brewer on the canvas twice........

And the fact that Charles Brewer has stated that he don't actually like boxing and only thinks of it as a business makes me question his heart in boxing i still can't believe how he couldn't finish a past his prime Antwun Echols when he had him down 3 times.

Herol Graham feather fisted?

WTF, thats the most stupid statement today, congratulations!

Mr featherfisted had McCallum on queer street and had Jackson saying "I aine never been hurt like that every punch felt like he was hitting me with a brick, i had to catch him i knew i would have lost"

Don't insult me about something you know nothing about do you know why he was nicknamed "Bomber" ? too fool his opponents into believing he was he was a hard hitting brawler when infact he was a good boxer with a lack of punching power which has been stated by Herol Graham and his trainer........

Maybe feather fisted was the wrong word but he certainly isn't a hard hitter and his record proves this and as for Mike McCallum he was never in any trouble with Herol Graham he just had a hard time dealing with Herol Graham's style.......

And as for Julian Jackson he had not long had surgery on his detatched retina if i remember rightly ? i have seen the fight many times and Herol Graham boxed rings around Julian Jackson and landed alot of fast good punchers but none of his punches were real *power punches* and basically Julian Jackson was having problems with his old detatched retina which is a known fact.

Cant tell me nowt about Graham he was my fav fighter growing up and to call him featherfisted is wholey uneducated. Either that or you just boxrec`d his record and lied.

[Fenster]

Charles Brewer was an exciting fighter but he was just a goodish fighter at best and he had a suspect chin remember Herol Graham who is feather fisted and was about 8 years past his prime had Charles Brewer on the canvas twice........

And the fact that Charles Brewer has stated that he don't actually like boxing and only thinks of it as a business makes me question his heart in boxing i still can't believe how he couldn't finish a past his prime Antwun Echols when he had him down 3 times.

That is not unusual.

Here's a Larry Holmes quote - "Why do you think I'm fighting? The glory? The agony of defeat? You show me a man who says he ain't fighting for money, I'll show you a fool"

Here's one from Roy Jones - "Fighters want to fight for titles, but not as much as we want to fight for MONEY."

[Violent Demise]

Hey didn't you understand my other post? Thought I made it clear.

I personally only EVER consider one champion per divison. Alphabet titles, whether it's the WBC, WBA, WBO or IBF don't mean shit. It's the fighter that makes the belt.

I'm merely stating a FACT that Charles Brewer was the IBF "world" Champion. That is a Fact.

So if the IBF decided to give Audley Harrison there title would you consider Harrison a IBF World Heavyweight champion? Despite the fact that he never beat a champion for it?

If the IBF made Harrison their "world" champion he would be their "world" champion.

Having to beat their IBF champion is irrelevant. I wouldn't class Audley as the real WORLD champion unless he beat the guy considered as the real WORLD champion.

And people wonder why the organizations will never go away. No need when you can brain wash people so easily. Did you consider Brewer the real world champion?

So if the IBF decided to give Audley Harrison there title would you consider Harrison a IBF World Heavyweight champion? Despite the fact that he never beat a champion for it?

If the IBF made Harrison their "world" champion he would be their "world" champion.

Having to beat their IBF champion is irrelevant. I wouldn't class Audley as the real WORLD champion unless he beat the guy considered as the real WORLD champion.

Anyone that knows boxing (not a hater) knows Brewer was no journeyman.

He beat Ottke twice and knocked out Herol Graham.

That must be why Brewer acknowledge that he lost the rematch to Ottke. huh? And anybody that knows Boxing knows that the Graham, Brewer beat was 39 years old and not the fighter he once was. In fact, if I remember correctly i think the Brewer fight was his last. He was an old fighter.

[Markusdarkus]

So if the IBF decided to give Audley Harrison there title would you consider Harrison a IBF World Heavyweight champion? Despite the fact that he never beat a champion for it?

If the IBF made Harrison their "world" champion he would be their "world" champion.

Having to beat their IBF champion is irrelevant. I wouldn't class Audley as the real WORLD champion unless he beat the guy considered as the real WORLD champion.

And people wonder why the organizations will never go away. No need when you can brain wash people so easily. Did you consider Brewer the real world champion?

If the IBF made Harrison their "world" champion he would be their "world" champion.

Having to beat their IBF champion is irrelevant. I wouldn't class Audley as the real WORLD champion unless he beat the guy considered as the real WORLD champion.

Anyone that knows boxing (not a hater) knows Brewer was no journeyman.

He beat Ottke twice and knocked out Herol Graham.

That must be why Brewer acknowledge that he lost the rematch to Ottke. huh? And anybody that knows Boxing knows that the Graham, Brewer beat was 39 years old and not the fighter he once was. In fact, if I remember correctly i think the Brewer fight was his last. He was an old fighter.

You clearly have not seen the Ottke fights and Graham was 37.

[Violent Demise]

If the IBF made Harrison their "world" champion he would be their "world" champion.

Having to beat their IBF champion is irrelevant. I wouldn't class Audley as the real WORLD champion unless he beat the guy considered as the real WORLD champion.

And people wonder why the organizations will never go away. No need when you can brain wash people so easily. Did you consider Brewer the real world champion?

Anyone that knows boxing (not a hater) knows Brewer was no journeyman.

He beat Ottke twice and knocked out Herol Graham.

That must be why Brewer acknowledge that he lost the rematch to Ottke. huh? And anybody that knows Boxing knows that the Graham, Brewer beat was 39 years old and not the fighter he once was. In fact, if I remember correctly i think the Brewer fight was his last. He was an old fighter.

You clearly have not seen the Ottke fights and Graham was 37.

I own the Ottke fights. The first one was a draw. Ottke took the second by a point. Something Brewer acknowledged. Guess you know more than him, huh?

And just so you know Graham-Brewer took place in 1998. Graham was born in 1959. If you ever learn how to add and subtract you'll see he was 39. Not 37.

[Markusdarkus]

And people wonder why the organizations will never go away. No need when you can brain wash people so easily. Did you consider Brewer the real world champion?



That must be why Brewer acknowledge that he lost the rematch to Ottke. huh? And anybody that knows Boxing knows that the Graham, Brewer beat was 39 years old and not the fighter he once was. In fact, if I remember correctly i think the Brewer fight was his last. He was an old fighter.

You clearly have not seen the Ottke fights and Graham was 37.

I own the Ottke fights. The first one was a draw. Ottke took the second by a point. Something Brewer acknowledged. Guess you know more than him, huh?

And just so you know Graham-Brewer took place in 1998. Graham was born in 1959. If you ever learn how to add and subtract you'll see he was 39. Not 37.

Firstly both Brewer/Ottke fights were robberies and why would you own any fight with Ottke on.

Smells like...... well you add the rest.

[Fenster]

So if the IBF decided to give Audley Harrison there title would you consider Harrison a IBF World Heavyweight champion? Despite the fact that he never beat a champion for it?

If the IBF made Harrison their "world" champion he would be their "world" champion.

Having to beat their IBF champion is irrelevant. I wouldn't class Audley as the real WORLD champion unless he beat the guy considered as the real WORLD champion.

And people wonder why the organizations will never go away. No need when you can brain wash people so easily. Did you consider Brewer the real world champion?

For fuck sake you can't really be this THICK!!! (you playing me right homie? ))

How can you read what i've said and ask that question?

Why would I consider Brewer the REAL WORLD CHAMPION just because he had an alphabet title?