Giving Joe Calzaghe Credit For Beating This Version Of RJJ.....

[jack2121]

To deny Calzaghe credit at all speaks of churlishness, but it's everyone's right to be churlish, even if it says more about them than Calzaghe.
He didn't just beat a past his prime RJJ, he put his nose between RJJ's guard and dared RJJ to hit him....and this was less than four minutes after being put on the deck and hurt. Not one of us would have expected Calzaghe to do that, and Roy Jones certainly didn't expect it. It takes a very special fighter indeed to do that, whether the guy in front of him is past his prime or not. Roy Jones was, at that point, still very dangerous....but he wasn't anywhere near as dangerous thereafter.
Many people fancied RJJ to win. Those that didn't expected maybe a tricky fight with Calzaghe winning on workrate.
I didn't see ANYWHERE any predictions that Calzaghe would take a rather chiselled looking Roy Jones to school for 11 rounds.

Hindsight is a funny thing. Lacey is no longer the mini-Tyson he was before Calzaghe boxed his head off. RJJ is a shell (he didn't look like a shell before the fight). Byron Mitchell was past it....etc etc.
Perhaps, just perhaps, this is just what a supreme boxing talent does to an opponent: destroys their spirit.

I for one will give him credit for putting away what was in front of him in a fashion that left no doubt at all about his supremacy in all departments. After all, we wouldn't have bothered watching if that supremacy was so obvious before the fight.

i am a joe fan but of corse rjj was a shell b4 the fight cmon be real!

[ICB]

To deny Calzaghe credit at all speaks of churlishness, but it's everyone's right to be churlish, even if it says more about them than Calzaghe.
He didn't just beat a past his prime RJJ, he put his nose between RJJ's guard and dared RJJ to hit him....and this was less than four minutes after being put on the deck and hurt. Not one of us would have expected Calzaghe to do that, and Roy Jones certainly didn't expect it. It takes a very special fighter indeed to do that, whether the guy in front of him is past his prime or not. Roy Jones was, at that point, still very dangerous....but he wasn't anywhere near as dangerous thereafter.
Many people fancied RJJ to win. Those that didn't expected maybe a tricky fight with Calzaghe winning on workrate.
I didn't see ANYWHERE any predictions that Calzaghe would take a rather chiselled looking Roy Jones to school for 11 rounds.

Hindsight is a funny thing. Lacey is no longer the mini-Tyson he was before Calzaghe boxed his head off. RJJ is a shell (he didn't look like a shell before the fight). Byron Mitchell was past it....etc etc.
Perhaps, just perhaps, this is just what a supreme boxing talent does to an opponent: destroys their spirit.

I for one will give him credit for putting away what was in front of him in a fashion that left no doubt at all about his supremacy in all departments. After all, we wouldn't have bothered watching if that supremacy was so obvious before the fight.

i am a joe fan but of corse rjj was a shell b4 the fight cmon be real!

What is this guy Napolis talking about ? i said RJJ was a shot fighter before the fight, i gave people the thread which was a good few weeks before the fight.

This guy can't be serious in what comeback fight did RJJ look impressive ? the struggle against the mediocre Anthony Hanshaw ? or losing 4 rounds to a blown up Welterweight who hadn't fought since 2005 ?

Go watch a prime RJJ then watch the RJJ of the last few years, theres a massive difference.

[leftylee]

Why should you get credit for beating a shot fighter? Not to mention he was a massive favourite to win beforehand.

[Napolis]

Good Lord, was RJJ good in his prime? Well I never. I take it all back.

[leftylee]

Good Lord, was RJJ good in his prime? Well I never. I take it all back.

And you are ?

[jack2121]

Good Lord, was RJJ good in his prime? Well I never. I take it all back.

And you are ?

And i thought i was a new b napoles is talking out his a**

[ICB]

Good Lord, was RJJ good in his prime? Well I never. I take it all back.

What ?

[jack2121]

To deny Calzaghe credit at all speaks of churlishness, but it's everyone's right to be churlish, even if it says more about them than Calzaghe.
He didn't just beat a past his prime RJJ, he put his nose between RJJ's guard and dared RJJ to hit him....and this was less than four minutes after being put on the deck and hurt. Not one of us would have expected Calzaghe to do that, and Roy Jones certainly didn't expect it. It takes a very special fighter indeed to do that, whether the guy in front of him is past his prime or not. Roy Jones was, at that point, still very dangerous....but he wasn't anywhere near as dangerous thereafter.
Many people fancied RJJ to win. Those that didn't expected maybe a tricky fight with Calzaghe winning on workrate.
I didn't see ANYWHERE any predictions that Calzaghe would take a rather chiselled looking Roy Jones to school for 11 rounds.

Hindsight is a funny thing. Lacey is no longer the mini-Tyson he was before Calzaghe boxed his head off. RJJ is a shell (he didn't look like a shell before the fight). Byron Mitchell was past it....etc etc.
Perhaps, just perhaps, this is just what a supreme boxing talent does to an opponent: destroys their spirit.

I for one will give him credit for putting away what was in front of him in a fashion that left no doubt at all about his supremacy in all departments. After all, we wouldn't have bothered watching if that supremacy was so obvious before the fight.

i am a joe fan but of corse rjj was a shell b4 the fight cmon be real!

What is this guy Napolis talking about ? i said RJJ was a shot fighter before the fight, i gave people the thread which was a good few weeks before the fight.

This guy can't be serious in what comeback fight did RJJ look impressive ? the struggle against the mediocre Anthony Hanshaw ? or losing 4 rounds to a blown up Welterweight who hadn't fought since 2005 ?

Go watch a prime RJJ then watch the RJJ of the last few years, theres a massive difference.

exactly