< David Haye vs. Monte Barrett > It's go time... Let's talk it out.

[Spicoli]

Well, Haye did what was expected. He put away a gatekeeper but this is no major achievement at all. He looked impressive but was he expected to look impressive.

Now I would like to see Haye fight Toney next, if he can get through Toney that would have more meaning for me.

Can you imagine the pre fight verbal back & forth?Worth the price alone.Don't think they will want that one,Haye has everything to lose at this stage.He can bide his time with all of the build up leading to a Klitschkos.Honestly,even at this stage I thing Toney gets into his head and takes him into very deep waters for an "L".

[LondonBB]

PMSL

Just PMSL

Some of the comments in this thread are hillarious.

None of you know david haye like i know him.

Hes a proper tough south london - millwall lad.

If you think for a moment he'll get beat by toney you really dont have a clue about boxing.

Im just PMSL at the comments here, so many people no fuk all about boxing lol.

Wait and see what happens.

Pmsl...this aint no calzaghe whos relies on speed and stamina.

This is someone who's gonna brutally ko virtually everyone.

You were all praising holyfield who came up from cruiser...pmsl haye is undisputed cruiser champ and has won all bar 2 of his fights (1 was a loss) by ko.

Get with it guys...sorry but the more i read this the more i know people on here are below 21 years old, never boxed or played any form of competitive sport at any decent level before...its fukin meaningless.

PMSL WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS HATERS...Just cos hes british, you shouldnt hate

Wait n see Pmsl.

And im laughing so fukin hard to read that people think he was kd by barret lol, watching the replay live on setanta and i saw it the first time, monte held haye arm and pushed his body and haye slipped...you guys are cracking me up pmsl.

Quality analysis lads...im looking forward to the next 'saddo-boxing' analyses to come before hayes next fight, then after he brutally ko's them i wanna hear the excuses again...keep em coming, thanx for the entertainment

[ICB]

PMSL

Just PMSL

Some of the comments in this thread are hillarious.

None of you know david haye like i know him.

Hes a proper tough south london - millwall lad.

If you think for a moment he'll get beat by toney you really dont have a clue about boxing.

Im just PMSL at the comments here, so many people no fuk all about boxing lol.

Wait and see what happens.

Pmsl...this aint no calzaghe whos relies on speed and stamina.

This is someone who's gonna brutally ko virtually everyone.

You were all praising holyfield who came up from cruiser...pmsl haye is undisputed cruiser champ and has won all bar 2 of his fights (1 was a loss) by ko.

Get with it guys...sorry but the more i read this the more i know people on here are below 21 years old, never boxed or played any form of competitive sport at any decent level before...its fukin meaningless.

PMSL WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS HATERS...Just cos hes british, you shouldnt hate

Wait n see Pmsl.

And im laughing so fukin hard to read that people think he was kd by barret lol, watching the replay live on setanta and i saw it the first time, monte held haye arm and pushed his body and haye slipped...you guys are cracking me up pmsl.

Quality analysis lads...im looking forward to the next 'saddo-boxing' analyses to come before hayes next fight, then after he brutally ko's them i wanna hear the excuses again...keep em coming, thanx for the entertainment

Why come and post here then if you think that ? im under 21 and i am an Amateur boxer with 4 fights under my belt and i come from a good boxing family. Being under 21 doesn't mean anything, by the way i think your post is out of line.

I gave David Haye credit but everyone is allowed different opinions, beating Monte Barett isn't that impressive. He is a gatekeeper and David Haye was 66-1 odds on to win, so that just shows how much of mismatch this fight was.

David Haye did what he had to though, beat the man infront of him. And look impressive while doing it, he showed the power/speed even at Heavyweight, which was the question marks some people had.

But i really don't know why you bother posting here, if you think most of us are under 21 and know nothing about boxing and aren't on your "Level". And thats all im really going to say, im not going to get into a slanging match. But i don't get your logic at all, because if i thought your way i wouldn't bother coming here.

But IMO we have some of the most knowledgable boxing fans here, aswell as good Amateur fighters/Trainers. And were a tight community here and we all get along fine, and there are always good debates. I really don't know why you think the way you do, but its your opinion i guess.

[Spicoli]

Yeah BB,that was a harsh coronation into the Heavys for Haye,I honestly thought he would take out the consistent & formidable Barret within 3 ...geez,what do I know.Maybe we should just do away with the formalities of him working his way into the division,Make the belts all sparkly and shiney and just hand them off to him.Sure would save some time.

And for the record,Haye is no Holyfield.No where close.To this very day,Holyfield gets labeled as "A blown up cruiser" by some and Haye will get his fair share of doubts and nay-sayers as well.Look the man has substantial promise and quality speed/Power.But at this point I see a guy who emphasis's power over consistency & defense.One step at a time brother.And right now,I don't think Toney beats him for just one minute....I think Toney beats him for quite a few minutes.Aside from frontal power ,He would be in deep right now.If Barret is bouncing jabs off your melon,what do you think Toney will do when his own right follows it.But I'm glad you found us entertaining,makes it all worth while for us common non-fans.Have to love your broad generalities...not.

And leave that tired,played out Hater mantra in the gym next to the dumb-bells.Its not because he's British that some have doubts.Its because he's the new flavor in the heavyweight division & has a pompous attitude.Hmm

[Kev]

PMSL

Just PMSL

Some of the comments in this thread are hillarious.

None of you know david haye like i know him.

Hes a proper tough south london - millwall lad.

If you think for a moment he'll get beat by toney you really dont have a clue about boxing.

Im just PMSL at the comments here, so many people no fuk all about boxing lol.

Wait and see what happens.

Pmsl...this aint no calzaghe whos relies on speed and stamina.

This is someone who's gonna brutally ko virtually everyone.

You were all praising holyfield who came up from cruiser...pmsl haye is undisputed cruiser champ and has won all bar 2 of his fights (1 was a loss) by ko.

Get with it guys...sorry but the more i read this the more i know people on here are below 21 years old, never boxed or played any form of competitive sport at any decent level before...its fukin meaningless.

PMSL WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS HATERS...Just cos hes british, you shouldnt hate

Wait n see Pmsl.

And im laughing so fukin hard to read that people think he was kd by barret lol, watching the replay live on setanta and i saw it the first time, monte held haye arm and pushed his body and haye slipped...you guys are cracking me up pmsl.

Quality analysis lads...im looking forward to the next 'saddo-boxing' analyses to come before hayes next fight, then after he brutally ko's them i wanna hear the excuses again...keep em coming, thanx for the entertainment

Hey London, good to see you back on the forum mate, I thought you vowed to quit forever last week after the Calzaghe win?

By the way what is pmsl is it a form of period that all you steroid inducing bodybuilding buff batty boys get because the roids kill your testoserone and flood your system with estrogen?

Is it true you poof's can actually ovulate if you inject too much? I heard a couple stories about some body building batty's who actually started lactating and used to drink each other's man milk?

Have you tried that or you not proper hardcore into the gay bodybuilding scene?

[Majesty]

PMSL

Just PMSL

Some of the comments in this thread are hillarious.

None of you know david haye like i know him.

Hes a proper tough south london - millwall lad.

If you think for a moment he'll get beat by toney you really dont have a clue about boxing.

Im just PMSL at the comments here, so many people no fuk all about boxing lol.

Wait and see what happens.

Pmsl...this aint no calzaghe whos relies on speed and stamina.

This is someone who's gonna brutally ko virtually everyone.

You were all praising holyfield who came up from cruiser...pmsl haye is undisputed cruiser champ and has won all bar 2 of his fights (1 was a loss) by ko.

Get with it guys...sorry but the more i read this the more i know people on here are below 21 years old, never boxed or played any form of competitive sport at any decent level before...its fukin meaningless.

PMSL WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS HATERS...Just cos hes british, you shouldnt hate

Wait n see Pmsl.

And im laughing so fukin hard to read that people think he was kd by barret lol, watching the replay live on setanta and i saw it the first time, monte held haye arm and pushed his body and haye slipped...you guys are cracking me up pmsl.

Quality analysis lads...im looking forward to the next 'saddo-boxing' analyses to come before hayes next fight, then after he brutally ko's them i wanna hear the excuses again...keep em coming, thanx for the entertainment

Hey London, good to see you back on the forum mate, I thought you vowed to quit forever last week after the Calzaghe win?

By the way what is pmsl is it a form of period that all you steroid inducing bodybuilding buff batty boys get because the roids kill your testoserone and flood your system with estrogen?

Is it true you poof's can actually ovulate if you inject too much? I heard a couple stories about some body building batty's who actually started lactating and used to drink each other's man milk?

Have you tried that or you not proper hardcore into the gay bodybuilding scene?

pmsl i think means pissing myself laughing?

[Gandalf]

PMSL

Just PMSL

Some of the comments in this thread are hillarious.

None of you know david haye like i know him.

Hes a proper tough south london - millwall lad.

If you think for a moment he'll get beat by toney you really dont have a clue about boxing.

Im just PMSL at the comments here, so many people no fuk all about boxing lol.

Wait and see what happens.

Pmsl...this aint no calzaghe whos relies on speed and stamina.

This is someone who's gonna brutally ko virtually everyone.

You were all praising holyfield who came up from cruiser...pmsl haye is undisputed cruiser champ and has won all bar 2 of his fights (1 was a loss) by ko.

Get with it guys...sorry but the more i read this the more i know people on here are below 21 years old, never boxed or played any form of competitive sport at any decent level before...its fukin meaningless.

PMSL WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS HATERS...Just cos hes british, you shouldnt hate

Wait n see Pmsl.

And im laughing so fukin hard to read that people think he was kd by barret lol, watching the replay live on setanta and i saw it the first time, monte held haye arm and pushed his body and haye slipped...you guys are cracking me up pmsl.

Quality analysis lads...im looking forward to the next 'saddo-boxing' analyses to come before hayes next fight, then after he brutally ko's them i wanna hear the excuses again...keep em coming, thanx for the entertainment

I really dont think anybody could care less if you know Haye or not.

Beating Barrett doesnt mean very much at all. Anybody who knows anything about boxing would know that. Dont you?!

Now a fight with Toney would obviously be a far sterner test than Barrett. Wasn't Barrett stopped in two rounds against who exactly last year? And he has lost every time he has tried to step it up.

Toney doesnt get blown out by anybody and he has skills. Toney would be a very serious challenge for Haye, and an obvious step up.

And, yes, I think Toney, if he hasnt slipped too much, has what it takes to beat Haye. I think a bigger challenge for Toney is his upcoming fight with Thompson. If Toney can get through that then a fight with Haye could be most viable.

Haye wants to make a name internationally, Toney is the old legend. Would be a good scrap.

[DaxxKahn]

Haye was sloppy as shit...He swung for the fences too many times...He kept that left arm of his way too low...He did not look to be overly fast most of the time.....

One time he tried to slug with eithr Klitschko he would end up on his back....Especially Vitaly who likes to toy with opponents...This guy is no threat to either sorry...amd I can see the "It was only his first real HW bout" bullshit coming already

[piye]

Lot of criticism considering he knocked the guy down five times. and was unhurt and dragged into a brawl.

[DaxxKahn]

Lot of criticism considering he knocked the guy down five times. and was unhurt and dragged into a brawl.

Well you just added to things...By trying to act as though the criticizim is un warrented just opened a huge point and a point that was already being made...

1. Knocking down Barrett 5 times is not really a huge thing...he was KO'd by Couser....a second rate journeyman

2. If he can be made to fight Barretts fight and not allow himself to remain poised and stick to HIS game plan against a gate keeper WTF is he supposed to do against Vitaly?....Are you going to say that if he was in a fight with Vitaly he would handle himself different because he knows he would have to?...Or some other bullshit.....

Haye was sloppy...Had nothing to do with Barrett...Haye swung for the fences far to often throughout the bout.....His damn left was so low he might as well of not even had one for defense because if he kept it that low against Vitaly...The Dr would take his head off with a straight right....

I agree Haye will create some excitement in the HW division...His trash talk alone will draw fans but fact is he is not on the level of either Klitschko...Both are too big....Vitaly if he choose to "Drag Haye into a brawl"...would not go down 5 times...(Not at all)....he would muscle Haye anywhere he wants....

Truth is IMO Sam Peter KO's Haye the first time he connects with a right to the head full tilt.....

Haye has a future but he is not ready to fight atop the HW division....The real big guys are too strong for Haye and the fact he is so easily "Drawn into a brawl"....He would be his own worst enemy

[piye]

Lot of criticism considering he knocked the guy down five times. and was unhurt and dragged into a brawl.

Well you just added to things...By trying to act as though the criticizim is un warrented just opened a huge point and a point that was already being made...

1. Knocking down Barrett 5 times is not really a huge thing...he was KO'd by Couser....a second rate journeyman

2. If he can be made to fight Barretts fight and not allow himself to remain poised and stick to HIS game plan against a gate keeper WTF is he supposed to do against Vitaly?....Are you going to say that if he was in a fight with Vitaly he would handle himself different because he knows he would have to?...Or some other bullshit.....

Haye was sloppy...Had nothing to do with Barrett...Haye swung for the fences far to often throughout the bout.....His damn left was so low he might as well of not even had one for defense because if he kept it that low against Vitaly...The Dr would take his head off with a straight right....

I agree Haye will create some excitement in the HW division...His trash talk alone will draw fans but fact is he is not on the level of either Klitschko...Both are too big....Vitaly if he choose to "Drag Haye into a brawl"...would not go down 5 times...(Not at all)....he would muscle Haye anywhere he wants....

Truth is IMO Sam Peter KO's Haye the first time he connects with a right to the head full tilt.....

Haye has a future but he is not ready to fight atop the HW division....The real big guys are too strong for Haye and the fact he is so easily "Drawn into a brawl"....He would be his own worst enemy

Seems as though you are letting your emotions get the better of you. I have watched Hayes entire career as I purchased his career set have you? ok well anyway I know that he can stick to a game plan he allowed himself to be dragged into a brawl as he knew he would win. He would not take the same mentality into the ring with either Klitscho brother.

[WelshDevilRob]

Haye was sloppy as shit...He swung for the fences too many times...He kept that left arm of his way too low...He did not look to be overly fast most of the time.....

One time he tried to slug with eithr Klitschko he would end up on his back....Especially Vitaly who likes to toy with opponents...This guy is no threat to either sorry...amd I can see the "It was only his first real HW bout" bullshit coming already

Daxx I assume you've seen Lennox Lewis vs Shannon Briggs - didn't Lewis look sloppy at times in that fight when Briggs was swinging wildly early on?
Yes he did but did he look the same way in his next fight? No.

Point is you can't base everything on 1 fight - Haye was overeager once he had his man hurt while Barrett was fighting desperate.

I'm convinced haye will box against Klitschko or someone more threatning as he has done in the past.

[killersheep]

Haye was sloppy as shit...He swung for the fences too many times...He kept that left arm of his way too low...He did not look to be overly fast most of the time.....

One time he tried to slug with eithr Klitschko he would end up on his back....Especially Vitaly who likes to toy with opponents...This guy is no threat to either sorry...amd I can see the "It was only his first real HW bout" bullshit coming already

Daxx I assume you've seen Lennox Lewis vs Shannon Briggs - didn't Lewis look sloppy at times in that fight when Briggs was swinging wildly early on?
Yes he did but did he look the same way in his next fight? No.

Point is you can't base everything on 1 fight - Haye was overeager once he had his man hurt while Barrett was fighting desperate.

I'm convinced haye will box against Klitschko or someone more threatning as he has done in the past.

I admittedly not seen much of pre-Maccarinelli Haye, maybe you can point out a fight where Haye boxes. I'd like to see it.

[WelshDevilRob]

Haye was sloppy as shit...He swung for the fences too many times...He kept that left arm of his way too low...He did not look to be overly fast most of the time.....

One time he tried to slug with eithr Klitschko he would end up on his back....Especially Vitaly who likes to toy with opponents...This guy is no threat to either sorry...amd I can see the "It was only his first real HW bout" bullshit coming already

Daxx I assume you've seen Lennox Lewis vs Shannon Briggs - didn't Lewis look sloppy at times in that fight when Briggs was swinging wildly early on?
Yes he did but did he look the same way in his next fight? No.

Point is you can't base everything on 1 fight - Haye was overeager once he had his man hurt while Barrett was fighting desperate.

I'm convinced haye will box against Klitschko or someone more threatning as he has done in the past.

I admittedly not seen much of pre-Maccarinelli Haye, maybe you can point out a fight where Haye boxes. I'd like to see it.

The Fragomeni fight he boxed for long periods and picked his punches due to the Italians gloves being in such a high guard. Fragomeni fought coming forward behind a very tight guard - meaning Haye had to move and pick his shots.

He also took his time against Mormeck but that was mainly due to weight issues.

[WelshDevilRob]

As for Vitali Klitschko, I think people are assuming he is back to his best based on 1 fight.

Yes he controlled the fight and did a good job but Peter just didn't turn up or seemed void of any hunger, desire or motivation.

Peter would have lost to alot of Heavyweights that night simply cause he looked like he hadn't trained and was one of the slowest Heavyweights I have ever seen in the history of the sport - he made Matt Skelton seem light footed.

We will have definate answers about how good Vitali is when he faces a stern test in Gomez - another former Cruiserweight king.
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For me Haye boxed well the 1st 2 rounds and avoided jabs from Barrett and dodged some hefty looking blows. Haye did get caught a couple of times but took them well - it is a boxing match so people are going to get hit.
From the 3rd it got a bit reckless and intruth very entertaining. Barrett was a desperate man and Haye was trying to find the finishing punch.

It was only the last knockdown that Haye landed on the button - all the other knockdowns seemeed to be grazing blows - which is testiment to Hayes power.

Haye has now Ko'd 2 Heavyweights and I expect the next fight to be a greater test - the winner of arreola vs Walker would be good or even Eddie Chambers for the rounds.


Entertainment in a Heavyweight fight - at long last.