Boxrec RULES!!!!

[killersheep]

I've mentioned my own reasons why PAC could be ahead of Hatton at 140 but you immediately trashed it. Your main reason why you can't accept it because PAC has not fought at 140 which were not really observed by rankings orgs and therefore not a very valid point.

I'm confused, if you are ranking who is the best fighter at 140 why would you use any data from another weight class?

BoxRec did it... As I've said no point in continuing to question BoxRec's rankings... We all know it's a computerized ranking point system.

Goodbye?

So why use data from other weight classes? Computerized or not.

[XaduBoxer]

I'm confused, if you are ranking who is the best fighter at 140 why would you use any data from another weight class?

BoxRec did it... As I've said no point in continuing to question BoxRec's rankings... We all know it's a computerized ranking point system.

Goodbye?

So why use data from other weight classes? Computerized or not.

Why don't you ask BoxRec? Or why don't you take a sleep for now Mr. Killer?

Can I go now? Nice talking to you...
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[Dizaster]

Haha! I was on page 1 reading between Killersheep and Saddoboxer, and then skipped straight to page 5 and it's still going the same..

Dare I read the other 3 in between.

Love rivalries on here..

[pacfan]

Haha! I was on page 1 reading between Killersheep and Saddoboxer, and then skipped straight to page 5 and it's still going the same..

Dare I read the other 3 in between.

Love rivalries on here..

You had me LOL'd on this one, Diz. That's exactly what I was thinking and I'm still LOL. I'm amazed and more amused at the unusually passionate devotion of Saddoboxer and Killasheep on this somewhat inane issue, not to mention some riders-on (there ain't no such word) taking some potshots in between. Well I needed a good entertainment for my otherwise boring weekend and this thread gave me just that. Who needs a boxing on lazy sundays if there are Saddoboxer and Killasheep debating, and it doesn't even matter whether the issue makes sense or not! Love you guys...

[leftylee]

BoxRec did it... As I've said no point in continuing to question BoxRec's rankings... We all know it's a computerized ranking point system.

Goodbye?

So why use data from other weight classes? Computerized or not.

Why don't you ask BoxRec? Or why don't you take a sleep for now Mr. Killer?

Can I go now? Nice talking to you...
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That's a clear indication Killersheep just chewed you up and spat you out. And that my friend, is what he just done with you.

He had you off big time here.

Seriousley, your logic is beyond garbage and full of bias and flaws.

I know you adore Pac, but I didn't think that much. Damn!

[XaduBoxer]

So why use data from other weight classes? Computerized or not.

Why don't you ask BoxRec? Or why don't you take a sleep for now Mr. Killer?

Can I go now? Nice talking to you...
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That's a clear indication Killersheep just chewed you up and spat you out. And that my friend, is what he just done with you.

He had you off big time here.

Seriousley, your logic is beyond garbage and full of bias and flaws.

I know you adore Pac, but I didn't think that much. Damn!

Whatever you say Judge Lefty...
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[XaduBoxer]

How about Ring Magazine's rankings? It looked acceptable enough... PAC is highly ranked simultaneously at 147 and 135 divisions (No PAC rankings at 140? I guess, maybe after the Hatton fight then PAC will be ranked at the same time in 3 divisions, 135, 140 and 147 by Ring Mag )...

Welterweight
Limit: 147 pounds
1. Antonio Margarito
2. Miguel Cotto
3. Shane Mosley
4. Joshua Clottey
5. Manny Pacquiao
6. Carlos Quintana
7. Zab Judah
8. Luis Collazo
9. Andre Berto
10. Isaac Hlatswayo

Lightweight
Limit: 135 pounds
CHAMPION: Juan Manuel Marquez
1. Nate Campbell
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Juan Diaz
4. Joel Casamayor
5. David Diaz
6. Julio Diaz
7. Antonio Pitalua
8. Michael Katsidis
9. Ali Funeka
10. Yuri Romanov

[killersheep]

How about Ring Magazine's rankings? It looked acceptable enough... PAC is highly ranked simultaneously at 147 and 135 divisions (No PAC rankings at 140? I guess, maybe after the Hatton fight then PAC will be ranked at the same time in 3 divisions, 135, 140 and 147 by Ring Mag )...

Welterweight
Limit: 147 pounds
1. Antonio Margarito
2. Miguel Cotto
3. Shane Mosley
4. Joshua Clottey
5. Manny Pacquiao
6. Carlos Quintana
7. Zab Judah
8. Luis Collazo
9. Andre Berto
10. Isaac Hlatswayo

Lightweight
Limit: 135 pounds
CHAMPION: Juan Manuel Marquez
1. Nate Campbell
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Juan Diaz
4. Joel Casamayor
5. David Diaz
6. Julio Diaz
7. Antonio Pitalua
8. Michael Katsidis
9. Ali Funeka
10. Yuri Romanov

The case of the ring has nothing to do with what we're talking about here, specifically because he has fought in these two divisions within the last year. You then bring up fightnews whose credibility is only one step above boxrec's, this argument is beyond over even if you don't realize it.
Let me explain a few things to you here, fightnews is not a sanctioning or officially recognized ranking institution, it is an entity that exists first and foremost to publish current news and events in the world of boxing and MMA, their rankings have very little credibility, because it is simply the opinions of fightnews staff. BoxRec, is literally a site based on keeping records and in general the schedules, the ranking system they use is mostly a plaything for the owners of the site and if you would do any research on the computerized system, you would realize that it mostly used as a resource of marketability of fighters rather than a realistic snapshot of the current standings of boxing this is alluded to by the moderators on the forum of boxrec itself where they discuss the most recent addition to the formula gives a fighter a higher ranking based on who well they rate the promoter. Please do a little research yourself a little bit, because you are coming off as a Pacquiao stalker rather than a fan of the sport.

[XaduBoxer]

How about Ring Magazine's rankings? It looked acceptable enough... PAC is highly ranked simultaneously at 147 and 135 divisions (No PAC rankings at 140? I guess, maybe after the Hatton fight then PAC will be ranked at the same time in 3 divisions, 135, 140 and 147 by Ring Mag )...

Welterweight
Limit: 147 pounds
1. Antonio Margarito
2. Miguel Cotto
3. Shane Mosley
4. Joshua Clottey
5. Manny Pacquiao
6. Carlos Quintana
7. Zab Judah
8. Luis Collazo
9. Andre Berto
10. Isaac Hlatswayo

Lightweight
Limit: 135 pounds
CHAMPION: Juan Manuel Marquez
1. Nate Campbell
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Juan Diaz
4. Joel Casamayor
5. David Diaz
6. Julio Diaz
7. Antonio Pitalua
8. Michael Katsidis
9. Ali Funeka
10. Yuri Romanov

The case of the ring has nothing to do with what we're talking about here, specifically because he has fought in these two divisions within the last year. You then bring up fightnews whose credibility is only one step above boxrec's, this argument is beyond over even if you don't realize it.
Let me explain a few things to you here, fightnews is not a sanctioning or officially recognized ranking institution, it is an entity that exists first and foremost to publish current news and events in the world of boxing and MMA, their rankings have very little credibility, because it is simply the opinions of fightnews staff. BoxRec, is literally a site based on keeping records and in general the schedules, the ranking system they use is mostly a plaything for the owners of the site and if you would do any research on the computerized system, you would realize that it mostly used as a resource of marketability of fighters rather than a realistic snapshot of the current standings of boxing this is alluded to by the moderators on the forum of boxrec itself where they discuss the most recent addition to the formula gives a fighter a higher ranking based on who well they rate the promoter. Please do a little research yourself a little bit, because you are coming off as a Pacquiao stalker rather than a fan of the sport.

Ahhh so you only believed in official sanctioning and ranking organizations like WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO and other XYZ boxing organizations?

Here's their rankings at 135, explain to me the rankings of Valero and Barrera in these official sanctioning and ranking organizations (underlined in red):




You can't just criticize BoxRec (or FightNews), these sanctioning and ranking orgs, official or otherwise are all the same...

Even Ring Magazine's ranking system, it has it's own flaws and credibility problems (especially now that it's owned by Golden Boy)...
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