+ Top 10 P4P from 135 and below +

[Julius Rain]

- Nonito although he holds a win over Vic, Vic wasn't P4P when Nonito beat him so you cant use that as a reason.
- Vic beat a P4P fighter in Mijares so he goes above.

I dont know mick, just cause vic beat mijares his above nonito and now a p4pder? I know vic dominated mijares but IMO if nonito and vic fought again. vic wouldn't win a single round again and would get knocked out again. I think both Nonito and Montiel are above vic. As good as we think Mijares is, we still gotta consider how good Nonito and MOntiel is too. If Mijares was clearly the superior fighter over Nonito and MOntiel then yea I may agree with you. Mijares is not though and has not proven much except his win over arce who I think is as overrated as vic is. IMO the nonito montiel showdown is the biggest match below 130 since rafa izzy 3.

See above...
If you honestly feel Mijares was being overrated then by any means feel that way. But I can tell you he's not.
Every dog has it's day and that's how I see that fight.
The same way Vic was sparked out, now Mijares was.
Then one day someone will come along and beat Nonito.
Mijares had a shitty day but hey at least it came to the hands of someone like Vic who seems to be wrecking havoc as of late.
He's beat Gorres (in my book), Kirilov & Mijares.
Nonito might be better then Vic & Mijares and who knows even better then Montiel.
My point is Mijares was P4P top 10 when he was beat by Vic.
When Nonito beat Vic, Vic was no where near P4P.

When compiling the list I looked at Nonitos resume and his inactivity plus opposition hurt him compared to the rest. I just didn't look at skills.

If I put Nonito above Vic, then that would mean I'd have to list Ricardo Cordoba who holds a win over Caballero and is now a title holder. But again I can't cause the win over Caballero came yrs. ago before Caballero was rated this high.

mick i guess you made your list according to recent accomplishments plus career resume? Your not considering who would beat who?

I know the list consist of different ideas to who is p4p better, but isn't it true the first thing that comes to mind when it is said who is better p4p the first idea that sparks is who will beat who? thats how i base my list on for the most part. Its really hard to put vic above nonito unless he avenges his lost. right? its like, to be the man you gotta beat the man. Sure nonito hasn't been that active, well not as active as vic. Big ups to vic he has travel everywhere to fight. I respect that a lot, and his win over mijares.

Mick can you explain to me why Mijares is top ten at the time? according to how you make the list, Mijares must of had some great win over recent great fighter? I would of put him as a top p4p base on his talent more so then his accomplishment.

Back to Nonito, his 5th round k.o win over Vic is far more signifiant then any recent Mijares win. Whats your perspective on that?

Nonito and Montiel IMO are the most talented and IMO would win over the names below them in my p4p list. Aint that the whole idea of making the list?

I'll be honest with you, I was high on Mijares too when he beat Arce. However he perform poorly against Vic and theres no excuse for that really. Credit to Vic but IMO he can not be rank higher then Nonito, unless nonito really started sluffing but Nonito has been winning impressively via tko's even though he hasn't been active. Can't really blame him for his inactivity though, his had problems. The guy doesn't even have a Coach at the moment.