Challenge to all.........

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Calzaghe beat Kessler who will go on to prove he is head and shoulders above all other comp at his own weight.

Floyd beat Corrales who went on to not be head and shoulders above the rest.

,Mark my words, Kessler beats everyone bar Calzaghe.

There were plenty who could beat Corrales and did and the same excuse your giving Oscar for being weight drained also goes for Diego

[ICB]

Calzaghe beat Kessler who will go on to prove he is head and shoulders above all other comp at his own weight.

Floyd beat Corrales who went on to not be head and shoulders above the rest.

,Mark my words, Kessler beats everyone bar Calzaghe.

There were plenty who could beat Corrales and did and the same excuse your giving Oscar for being weight drained also goes for Diego

Alot of ifs no facts, Mikkel Kessler hasn't proven shit since his loss to Joe Calzaghe. The fact is Diego Corrales was P4P ranked number 5. Which means it is a better win than the Mikkel Kessler win. And Diego Corrales proved he was a hell of a fighter after that loss, Diego Corrales rehydrated alot of weight. Where as ODLH only rehydrated 1 pound, and he hadn't fought at Welterweight in years. If Diego Corrales would of fought Floyd Mayweather at 100 or 150 pounds, no matter if it was on the moon, day or night. January or December, Floyd Mayweather would of kicked his ass any time. And the fact that he dominated a P4P number 5 rated higher is bloody impressive. And it proves your other statement to be as useful as shit.

[Trainer Monkey]

Ice,to save you running down Kessler too bad
HE WAS HURT FOR THE FIGHT

[JT Rock]

Ross you have been presented facts and the sad reality is that your hinging Calzaghe being better than Floyd on assuming Kessler's future is pathetic.

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Well, call it pathetic when Kessler fails because as yet its onlt Calzaghe who could do that to him.

I find Floyd "fans" hilarious, they are so sure their fighter is so head and shoulders above the rest but yet they still need to defend the opposition he fought, a few were neames in their own right, just not when Floyd fought them, a few were coming off losses as well

Ill keep thinking Joe beats Floyd and anyone else, your wasting your time, ive seen Joe in action and hes a marvel, at 36 and doing what he does after 12 years unbroken reign as a world champ, Floyd wont match that, no one will

[Gandalf]

Wow! This thread is still running on an on.. Makes quite funny reading!!

[ElTerribleMorales]

Calzaghe beat Kessler who will go on to prove he is head and shoulders above all other comp at his own weight.

Floyd beat Corrales who went on to not be head and shoulders above the rest.

,Mark my words, Kessler beats everyone bar Calzaghe.

There were plenty who could beat Corrales and did and the same excuse your giving Oscar for being weight drained also goes for Diego

difference, Corrales even if weight drained, was in his prime, cant say the same for Oscar by any stretch of the imagination, also Corrales went on to prove it true by moving up to Lightweight and showing just how good he was by winning against top tier competition

[JT Rock]

Weird havent heard anything intelligent and profound by Ross yet,




Especially after he has been presented with hardcore facts about Floyds career accomplishments and level of competition, compared to his fortune telling of Kessler's career..

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Which defining fight did Floyd have to prove how good he was?

Calzaghe was thought to have been fading and too old after his faultless performance against Lacy to be a threat against the big strong powerfull Kessler, yet he proved how good he is by figuring him out, eating up his best shots, he really proved his worth especially at his age and how long hed been at the top.

Floyd doesnt have that icing on the cake

[CFH]

Which defining fight did Floyd have to prove how good he was?

Calzaghe was thought to have been fading and too old after his faultless performance against Lacy to be a threat against the big strong powerfull Kessler, yet he proved how good he is by figuring him out, eating up his best shots, he really proved his worth especially at his age and how long hed been at the top.

Floyd doesnt have that icing on the cake

That makes no logical sense. A fighter, less than two years removed from an amazing performance, coming off wins over fighters who did not damaged him in any way, was thought to be faded and old? Almost nobody felt that way.

I like Kessler, a lot, but he has proven sweet fuck all since the Calzaghe fight.

[JT Rock]

Which defining fight did Floyd have to prove how good he was?

Calzaghe was thought to have been fading and too old after his faultless performance against Lacy to be a threat against the big strong powerfull Kessler, yet he proved how good he is by figuring him out, eating up his best shots, he really proved his worth especially at his age and how long hed been at the top.

Floyd doesnt have that icing on the cake

Been there done that with Coralles, Castillo, Hatton

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Which defining fight did Floyd have to prove how good he was?

Calzaghe was thought to have been fading and too old after his faultless performance against Lacy to be a threat against the big strong powerfull Kessler, yet he proved how good he is by figuring him out, eating up his best shots, he really proved his worth especially at his age and how long hed been at the top.

Floyd doesnt have that icing on the cake

Been there done that with Coralles, Castillo, Hatton

Non were seen as serious threats to Floyd, for various reasons, Corrales for the weight, Castillo for not having anyting special and also not being undefeated (undefeated means nothing skill wise but he wasnt a unified rising young star like Kessler) and Hattonw as moving up a weight and most felt that hed lose anyway.

Whereas Joe had to prove himself all over again and what I meant by people thinking he was on the slide is that the Lacy fight was probably his last good performance and that Lacy was overrated anyway, whereas Kessler had fought and beaten more world class operators and title holders and done it very well.

Emanuel Steward was gushing over Joe during his commentating of the Kessler bout, would he ever call Floyd a "fighting machine"? Or comemnt on how he "adjusts brilliantly" or even that the two combabtants are probably both 2 of the best boxers around today??

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Which defining fight did Floyd have to prove how good he was?

Calzaghe was thought to have been fading and too old after his faultless performance against Lacy to be a threat against the big strong powerfull Kessler, yet he proved how good he is by figuring him out, eating up his best shots, he really proved his worth especially at his age and how long hed been at the top.

Floyd doesnt have that icing on the cake

Been there done that with Coralles, Castillo, Hatton

Non were seen as serious threats to Floyd, for various reasons, Corrales for the weight, Castillo for not having anyting special and also not being undefeated (undefeated means nothing skill wise but he wasnt a unified rising young star like Kessler) and Hattonw as moving up a weight and most felt that hed lose anyway.

Whereas Joe had to prove himself all over again and what I meant by people thinking he was on the slide is that the Lacy fight was probably his last good performance and that Lacy was overrated anyway, whereas Kessler had fought and beaten more world class operators and title holders and done it very well.

Emanuel Steward was gushing over Joe during his commentating of the Kessler bout, would he ever call Floyd a "fighting machine"? Or comemnt on how he "adjusts brilliantly" or even that the two combabtants are probably both 2 of the best boxers around today??

I cannot believe the bias crap that u write sometimes.
Corrales not a threat? He was 33-0 a P4P ranked fighter and had beaten:
Angel Manfredy
Derrik Gainer
John Brown
Gary St. Clair
and the weight issue? Thats no worse than the rumours Kessler had a broken hand for the Joe fight.

Castillo no threat? A guy on his 5th defense of the WBC title is no threat? A guy that n his career beat:
Stevie Johnson
Diego Corrales
Joel Casamayor
Juan Lazcano
Jorge Paez
is no threat?

Hatton no threat cos most thought he'd lose?? Could that be because Floyd is such a good fighter? Hatton no threat cos he had to move up May i remind u that Floyd started his career 10 pound lighter than Ricky and that at the time of their fight Ricky weighed the same? Hatton no threat even tho he'd recently Ko'd Castillo in 3 and had beaten an all time great in Kostya by TKO?

Joe is better cos Steward gushed over him? Steward also said Andy Lee would beat Pavlik this year! If u wanna talk about experts look at the fact that whilst Floyd was fighting the vast majority of experts, fans and fighters had him P4P #1. Tell u anything?

[Andre]

Which defining fight did Floyd have to prove how good he was?

He outboxed everyone mate, In the finish I was only left wondering how he would go against someone who took a total war to him,cut him off smashed his arms out the way and walked over him with power, that was the only question I had left.

Although I think Kostya may have taken Floyd to ground at one stage in his prime and done some damage and had a chance with skills if he could slow him like that.

Hatton was the only prime one left to prove it and never even came close, not even once the whole fight so there is one answer for you and maybe its an underlying reason for rubbishing Floyd against another Brit fighter in Calzage..

Who I think hasnt quite the same skill level if they did magically happen to be at the same weight.
Would be interesting and close maybe but not a definate; I'd go 55 % to 45 % in Floyds favour. Same goes for if he met Bernard or Roy at the same weight all in their prime; Roy and him maybe as close as 50 /50 when Roy could match his hand speed to his foot speed with those snappy attacks from beyond the outside with full weight and power on the move, he would have been much harder to read ,adjust to and deal with from within Floyds system than the other two I think.