Why people won't hate on Miguel Cotto for fighting Manny Pacquiao

[Fenster]

PBF TKOs Pac FACT
Cotto TKOs Pac FACT

I meant Floyd SD Pacster. Fact.

Pacster definitely KO's Cotto. You see Cotto the weekend? He will look like he's fighting in treacle compared to Pacster. Pacster will beat him to a pulp inside 6. Fact.

I know your being sarcastic but im not sure if you still think Manny Pacquiao, will actually beat Miguel Cotto so i'll reply anyway.

Joshua Clottey stood straight in front of Miguel Cotto, and is way bigger than Manny Pacquiao.

Manny Pacquiao would be on the move constantly, he wouldn't stand his ground vs Miguel Cotto. He would rely on his footwork and speed.

Now i think Manny Pacquiao is a really good fighter, but i think he's being a bit overrated here.

Ricky Hatton was on the slide yes it was an impressive victory, and it wouldn't of mattered what Ricky Hatton turned up.

But still Ricky Hatton hasn't been the same since the Kostya Tszyu fight, ODLH was weight drained and rubbish. He hadn't fought at Welterweight in god knows how many years. And David Diaz is just mediocre.

I don't see how any of these fights prove that Manny Pacquiao, stands any chance against Floyd Mayweather Jr or Miguel Cotto. Or that Manny Pacquiao stands a chance against any top Welterweight, he hasn't fought a live-fighter at Welterweight yet.

Floyd Mayweather Jr still totally outboxes Manny Pacquiao, by atleast 8 rounds to 4. Anything JMM can do Floyd Mayweather Jr will do better. And Miguel Cotto will be too physical and too strong, and his body shots will be the key especially the way Manny Pacquiao leaves his body exposed, and he'll stop Manny Pacquiao late on.

That fact that Pacster would use his speed movement is the reason he'd KO Cotto.

When he KO's Cotto, you will be making excuses for that win too.. "Cotto was never the same after Margarito" .. "Cotto was on the slide" .. "Cotto was always chinny" .. "Cotto was weight drained"

Excuses, excuses, excuses. You can make excuses for every fighters loss.

IF Cotto beats Pacster it means Pacster was too small. Fact.

[ICB]

I meant Floyd SD Pacster. Fact.

Pacster definitely KO's Cotto. You see Cotto the weekend? He will look like he's fighting in treacle compared to Pacster. Pacster will beat him to a pulp inside 6. Fact.

I know your being sarcastic but im not sure if you still think Manny Pacquiao, will actually beat Miguel Cotto so i'll reply anyway.

Joshua Clottey stood straight in front of Miguel Cotto, and is way bigger than Manny Pacquiao.

Manny Pacquiao would be on the move constantly, he wouldn't stand his ground vs Miguel Cotto. He would rely on his footwork and speed.

Now i think Manny Pacquiao is a really good fighter, but i think he's being a bit overrated here.

Ricky Hatton was on the slide yes it was an impressive victory, and it wouldn't of mattered what Ricky Hatton turned up.

But still Ricky Hatton hasn't been the same since the Kostya Tszyu fight, ODLH was weight drained and rubbish. He hadn't fought at Welterweight in god knows how many years. And David Diaz is just mediocre.

I don't see how any of these fights prove that Manny Pacquiao, stands any chance against Floyd Mayweather Jr or Miguel Cotto. Or that Manny Pacquiao stands a chance against any top Welterweight, he hasn't fought a live-fighter at Welterweight yet.

Floyd Mayweather Jr still totally outboxes Manny Pacquiao, by atleast 8 rounds to 4. Anything JMM can do Floyd Mayweather Jr will do better. And Miguel Cotto will be too physical and too strong, and his body shots will be the key especially the way Manny Pacquiao leaves his body exposed, and he'll stop Manny Pacquiao late on.

That fact that Pacster would use his speed movement is the reason he'd KO Cotto.

When he KO's Cotto, you will be making excuses for that win too.. "Cotto was never the same after Margarito" .. "Cotto was on the slide" .. "Cotto was always chinny" .. "Cotto was weight drained"

Excuses, excuses, excuses. You can make excuses for every fighters loss.

IF Cotto beats Pacster it means Pacster was too small. Fact.

No i wouldn't Miguel Cotto is still very much the same fighter, but i think the excuses above are valied.

Because pretty much everyone agrees ODLH was a weight drained punchbag, and alot of fighters would of beaten that version of ODLH.

And i think everyone agrees Ricky Hatton hasn't been the same since Kostya Tszyu fight, and people have been saying that even before the Manny Pacquiao fight.

Carlos Quintana may not be as good as Manny Pacquiao, but he is a slick fighter with good movement. Yet Miguel Cotto soon caught up to him.

I haven't seen any performance from Manny Pacquiao that leads me to believe, he would stand a chance against Miguel Cotto or Floyd Mayweather Jr.

[Fenster]

I know your being sarcastic but im not sure if you still think Manny Pacquiao, will actually beat Miguel Cotto so i'll reply anyway.

Joshua Clottey stood straight in front of Miguel Cotto, and is way bigger than Manny Pacquiao.

Manny Pacquiao would be on the move constantly, he wouldn't stand his ground vs Miguel Cotto. He would rely on his footwork and speed.

Now i think Manny Pacquiao is a really good fighter, but i think he's being a bit overrated here.

Ricky Hatton was on the slide yes it was an impressive victory, and it wouldn't of mattered what Ricky Hatton turned up.

But still Ricky Hatton hasn't been the same since the Kostya Tszyu fight, ODLH was weight drained and rubbish. He hadn't fought at Welterweight in god knows how many years. And David Diaz is just mediocre.

I don't see how any of these fights prove that Manny Pacquiao, stands any chance against Floyd Mayweather Jr or Miguel Cotto. Or that Manny Pacquiao stands a chance against any top Welterweight, he hasn't fought a live-fighter at Welterweight yet.

Floyd Mayweather Jr still totally outboxes Manny Pacquiao, by atleast 8 rounds to 4. Anything JMM can do Floyd Mayweather Jr will do better. And Miguel Cotto will be too physical and too strong, and his body shots will be the key especially the way Manny Pacquiao leaves his body exposed, and he'll stop Manny Pacquiao late on.

That fact that Pacster would use his speed movement is the reason he'd KO Cotto.

When he KO's Cotto, you will be making excuses for that win too.. "Cotto was never the same after Margarito" .. "Cotto was on the slide" .. "Cotto was always chinny" .. "Cotto was weight drained"

Excuses, excuses, excuses. You can make excuses for every fighters loss.

IF Cotto beats Pacster it means Pacster was too small. Fact.

No i wouldn't Miguel Cotto is still very much the same fighter, but i think the excuses above are valied.

Because pretty much everyone agrees ODLH was a weight drained punchbag, and alot of fighters would of beaten that version of ODLH.

And i think everyone agrees Ricky Hatton hasn't been the same since Kostya Tszyu fight, and people have been saying that even before the Manny Pacquiao fight.

Carlos Quintana may not be as good as Manny Pacquiao, but he is a slick fighter with good movement. Yet Miguel Cotto soon caught up to him.

I haven't seen any performance from Manny Pacquiao that leads me to believe, he would stand a chance against Miguel Cotto or Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Pacster would have beat Hatton at any time of Hatton's career. Watch the Magee fight.

Oscar was a shriveled mess, yes, but that doesn't mean any fighter would have slaughtered him the way Pacster did.

You're the excuses king, ICB, don't try and make out you wont be making excuses.

[ICB]

That fact that Pacster would use his speed movement is the reason he'd KO Cotto.

When he KO's Cotto, you will be making excuses for that win too.. "Cotto was never the same after Margarito" .. "Cotto was on the slide" .. "Cotto was always chinny" .. "Cotto was weight drained"

Excuses, excuses, excuses. You can make excuses for every fighters loss.

IF Cotto beats Pacster it means Pacster was too small. Fact.

No i wouldn't Miguel Cotto is still very much the same fighter, but i think the excuses above are valied.

Because pretty much everyone agrees ODLH was a weight drained punchbag, and alot of fighters would of beaten that version of ODLH.

And i think everyone agrees Ricky Hatton hasn't been the same since Kostya Tszyu fight, and people have been saying that even before the Manny Pacquiao fight.

Carlos Quintana may not be as good as Manny Pacquiao, but he is a slick fighter with good movement. Yet Miguel Cotto soon caught up to him.

I haven't seen any performance from Manny Pacquiao that leads me to believe, he would stand a chance against Miguel Cotto or Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Pacster would have beat Hatton at any time of Hatton's career. Watch the Magee fight.

Oscar was a shriveled mess, yes, but that doesn't mean any fighter would have slaughtered him the way Pacster did.

You're the excuses king, ICB, don't try and make out you wont be making excuses.

Didn't i just say Manny Pacquiao would of beaten any version of Ricky Hatton ? but you can't just base that on one performance.

ODLH was rubbish in that fight any top 147 pound fighter, would of beaten ODLH like a red headed step child. ODLH hasn't fought at Welterweight since 2001 agaisnt Arturo Gatti, and the last time he was below 146 was in 1997 against Miguel Angel Gonzalez, if that isn't proof enough i don't know what is.

You know it and i know it, don't try and make out that Manny Pacquiao, is the only fighter that would of beaten a weight drained ODLH like that.

Because that is reaching just to try and prove your point, when the fact is ODLH was rubbish and he was rubbish in sparring aswell. Getting the crap knocked out of him by the smaller Victor Ortiz.

Im the king of excuses since when ? i give fighters credit but if there is circumstances surronding a certain fight. Then yes i will point it out like everyone else does on here.

[OumaFan]

This isn't rocket science, Cotto is the underdog, why would he be criticized for taking a fight most people think he will lose.

[Kirkland Laing]

People aren't getting at Cotto for fighting Manny because he doesn't have a history of fighting people smaller than himself. Mayweather has been criticised for this ( and also "dodging" certain welterweights ) and got it again when he signed to fight JMM, unfairly in my opinion.

Manny beats Cotto quite easily, then Floyd beats Manny.

[Fenster]

No i wouldn't Miguel Cotto is still very much the same fighter, but i think the excuses above are valied.

Because pretty much everyone agrees ODLH was a weight drained punchbag, and alot of fighters would of beaten that version of ODLH.

And i think everyone agrees Ricky Hatton hasn't been the same since Kostya Tszyu fight, and people have been saying that even before the Manny Pacquiao fight.

Carlos Quintana may not be as good as Manny Pacquiao, but he is a slick fighter with good movement. Yet Miguel Cotto soon caught up to him.

I haven't seen any performance from Manny Pacquiao that leads me to believe, he would stand a chance against Miguel Cotto or Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Pacster would have beat Hatton at any time of Hatton's career. Watch the Magee fight.

Oscar was a shriveled mess, yes, but that doesn't mean any fighter would have slaughtered him the way Pacster did.

You're the excuses king, ICB, don't try and make out you wont be making excuses.

Didn't i just say Manny Pacquiao would of beaten any version of Ricky Hatton ? but you can't just base that on one performance.

ODLH was rubbish in that fight any top 147 pound fighter, would of beaten ODLH like a red headed step child. ODLH hasn't fought at Welterweight since 2001 agaisnt Arturo Gatti, and the last time he was below 146 was in 1997 against Miguel Angel Gonzalez, if that isn't proof enough i don't know what is.

You know it and i know it, don't try and make out that Manny Pacquiao, is the only fighter that would of beaten a weight drained ODLH like that.

Because that is reaching just to try and prove your point, when the fact is ODLH was rubbish and he was rubbish in sparring aswell. Getting the crap knocked out of him by the smaller Victor Ortiz.

Im the king of excuses since when ? i give fighters credit but if there is circumstances surronding a certain fight. Then yes i will point it out like everyone else does on here.

Prove my point? I don't have to prove anything. You're the one claiming Pacster's wins are tainted.

For you to be right, you must PROVE any other top 147 fighter would have done as good a job as Pacster. Can you prove that? No you can't, because no other 147 fighter fought Oscar that night. So you're wrong. Fact.

You deal with suppostion, I deal with the facts.

[ICB]

Pacster would have beat Hatton at any time of Hatton's career. Watch the Magee fight.

Oscar was a shriveled mess, yes, but that doesn't mean any fighter would have slaughtered him the way Pacster did.

You're the excuses king, ICB, don't try and make out you wont be making excuses.

Didn't i just say Manny Pacquiao would of beaten any version of Ricky Hatton ? but you can't just base that on one performance.

ODLH was rubbish in that fight any top 147 pound fighter, would of beaten ODLH like a red headed step child. ODLH hasn't fought at Welterweight since 2001 agaisnt Arturo Gatti, and the last time he was below 146 was in 1997 against Miguel Angel Gonzalez, if that isn't proof enough i don't know what is.

You know it and i know it, don't try and make out that Manny Pacquiao, is the only fighter that would of beaten a weight drained ODLH like that.

Because that is reaching just to try and prove your point, when the fact is ODLH was rubbish and he was rubbish in sparring aswell. Getting the crap knocked out of him by the smaller Victor Ortiz.

Im the king of excuses since when ? i give fighters credit but if there is circumstances surronding a certain fight. Then yes i will point it out like everyone else does on here.

Prove my point? I don't have to prove anything. You're the one claiming Pacster's wins are tainted.

For you to be right, you must PROVE any other top 147 fighter would have done as good a job as Pacster. Can you prove that? No you can't, because no other 147 fighter fought Oscar that night. So you're wrong. Fact.

You deal with suppostion, I deal with the facts.

Actually your wrong again how is it a "Fact" that no one else would of done that to ODLH ?

Its your opinion no one else wouldn't have, like its my opinion plenty of fighters could.

I've backed my comments up with facts, like its a fact that ODLH hasn't fought at Welterweight since he fought Arturo Gatti in 2001. Its a fact he hasn't been below 146 pounds since he fought Miguel Angel Gonzalez in 1997 over a decade.

Its a fact in sparring before the Manny Pacquiao fight, he got beat up by the smaller Victor Ortiz. Its a fact in the fight previous to the Manny Pacquiao fight.

He was marked up by the smaller Steve Forbes. Its a fact it was ODLH's worst performance of his career against Manny Pacquiao, its a fact he was badly weight drained.

And its a very strong opinion backed up by solid facts of the past, that most of the elite Welterweights. Would of beaten ODLH without too much trouble.

[Fenster]

Didn't i just say Manny Pacquiao would of beaten any version of Ricky Hatton ? but you can't just base that on one performance.

ODLH was rubbish in that fight any top 147 pound fighter, would of beaten ODLH like a red headed step child. ODLH hasn't fought at Welterweight since 2001 agaisnt Arturo Gatti, and the last time he was below 146 was in 1997 against Miguel Angel Gonzalez, if that isn't proof enough i don't know what is.

You know it and i know it, don't try and make out that Manny Pacquiao, is the only fighter that would of beaten a weight drained ODLH like that.

Because that is reaching just to try and prove your point, when the fact is ODLH was rubbish and he was rubbish in sparring aswell. Getting the crap knocked out of him by the smaller Victor Ortiz.

Im the king of excuses since when ? i give fighters credit but if there is circumstances surronding a certain fight. Then yes i will point it out like everyone else does on here.

Prove my point? I don't have to prove anything. You're the one claiming Pacster's wins are tainted.

For you to be right, you must PROVE any other top 147 fighter would have done as good a job as Pacster. Can you prove that? No you can't, because no other 147 fighter fought Oscar that night. So you're wrong. Fact.

You deal with suppostion, I deal with the facts.

Actually your wrong again how is it a "Fact" that no one else would of done that to ODLH ?

Its your opinion no one else wouldn't have, like its my opinion plenty of fighters could.

I've backed my comments up with facts, like its a fact that ODLH hasn't fought at Welterweight since he fought Arturo Gatti in 2001. Its a fact he hasn't been below 146 pounds since he fought Miguel Angel Gonzalez in 1997 over a decade.

Its a fact in sparring before the Manny Pacquiao fight, he got beat up by the smaller Victor Ortiz. Its a fact in the fight previous to the Manny Pacquiao fight.

He was marked up by the smaller Steve Forbes. Its a fact it was ODLH's worst performance of his career against Manny Pacquiao, its a fact he was badly weight drained.

And its a very strong opinion backed up by solid facts of the past, that most of the elite Welterweights. Would of beaten ODLH without too much trouble.

No.. I never said that. You are confusing yourself. You need to focus on what I am saying.

Nobody apart from Pacster fought Oscar on the 06-12-2008. That is a fact. Therefore it is impossible to know for a fact that any other fighter would have been more impressive than Pacster. That is a fact.

You THINK any top fighter at 147 would have beaten Oscar that night. But you can't PROVE it. It's just an OPINION because It's IMPOSSIBLE to prove. That is a fact.

I too believe other fighters would have beaten Oscar that night. BUT it doesn't mean Pacster's performance should be sullied.