B. J. Flores' comments on Wlad yesterday

[JT Rock]

Moorer was a good boxer,WHO CAME TO FIGHT PERIOD!

Im not saying Moorer is a worldbeater, I'm advocating in this era of Heavies Moorer would be damn good

So tell me Pea, Fightfan and Lyle who on Wlads record is better than Prime Michael Moorer?

Would you rate Ruslan Chagaev who is #3 Heavy higher than a Prime Moorer if he was in this era? I doubt it

Plus I have no doubt any version of George Foreman even the 45 year old version would beat Wlad. You geniuses forget Moorer was beating george and busting him up until he ran into Georges right hand. How many guys you know that could take a Foreman flush power shot?

Lyle! I loke how you ignored the other fighters on my list and went right to dispariging Tyson, you honestly think Wlad would beat Tyson. The guys you mentioned took the fight to tyson and werent scared, Wlad wouldnt take the fight to a grocery bagger let alone MIKE TYSON.

Fighting tentatively and scared against Tyson would get Wlad KTFO
Tyson would easily slip the jab and rip Wlads body and jaw it would be funny to watch Wlad flop around the ring like a fish out of water while Tyson took him to the woodshed

[The Fightfan]

Moorer was a good boxer,WHO CAME TO FIGHT PERIOD!

Im not saying Moorer is a worldbeater, I'm advocating in this era of Heavies Moorer would be damn good

So tell me Pea, Fightfan and Lyle who on Wlads record is better than Prime Michael Moorer?

Would you rate Ruslan Chagaev who is #3 Heavy higher than a Prime Moorer if he was in this era? I doubt it

Plus I have no doubt any version of George Foreman even the 45 year old version would beat Wlad. You geniuses forget Moorer was beating george and busting him up until he ran into Georges right hand. How many guys you know that could take a Foreman flush power shot?

Lyle! I loke how you ignored the other fighters on my list and went right to dispariging Tyson, you honestly think Wlad would beat Tyson. The guys you mentioned took the fight to tyson and werent scared, Wlad wouldnt take the fight to a grocery bagger let alone MIKE TYSON.

Fighting tentatively and scared against Tyson would get Wlad KTFO
Tyson would easily slip the jab and rip Wlads body and jaw it would be funny to watch Wlad flop around the ring like a fish out of water while Tyson took him to the woodshed

OK IMO he lost to Evander. I had Evander ahead by one round, he then lost too an old slow George Foreman. Barely scraped by Axel Schultz,and the white Buffalo Frans Botha. Vaugh Bean was probably the most boring fight I have ever watched in my life period. Yes I would take Chageav a 6'2 225 lbs and Moorer probably at the same weight I would have took Chageav from what I've seen before Wlad disposed of him.

The version of Tyson after jail Wlad would have destroyed no doubt about it in my mind. The Lennox fight I wold say who's jaw would hold up first, Holyfield Wlad would do decent against and keep him at bay. Bowe had one good fight IMO against Holyfield in the first fight and then went completly to shit. Another heavyweight I thought could have done a bunch but because he is retarded and ate himself to death completly overrated. I would give Wlad a good chance against everyone of these fighter's at this point in his career.

[JT Rock]

Everyone fails to recognize what Spicoli has said already. Wlad has a definitive comfort zone, when it is compromised he unravels. His only adjustment is to hold like he was clinging to a life preserver.

Those guys I mentioned came to fight.

Tyson
Lewis
Holyfield
Bowe
Moorer

Those guys were tough, had heart and a fighting spirit. The problem with the heavyweight division is, European fighters for the most part need to read there opposition from a comfort level and a distance.(Quote from Emmanuel Steward on how Ricky Hattons style was made to beat Tszyu)

Now when you look at the influx of European fighters that are in the Heavyweight division Chagaev, Imbragimov, Povetkin, Wlad Klitschko etc. They are good Boxers NOT GOOD FIGHTERS. Wlad being so big and enjoying a size advantage those guys cant outbox him. Yet they wouldnt try to press and push him and unravel him they try to box from the outside and they get picked off.

The guy that beats Wlad wont be a guy that out boxes him, its a guy who jumps in and presses and fights. Thats why fighters like David Haye and Chris Arreola are such intriguing matchups.

There going to try and fight and impose there will, there not safety 1st guys there the kind of exciting fighters that we come to enjoy from our Heavyweight Champion of the world. Its unimagineable to think a 6'7 240lb carved out of a statue physique who hits like a mule dosent finish a guy who he clearly out guns by a longshot, he dosent even try.

If Wlad was a Welterweight or Middle etc, than his style would be great, but he's the damn recognized HeavyWeight Champ of the world for Chrisesakes TRY TO FRIGGIN FIGHT!!!

Wlad hasnt even had a career defining fight that galvanizes his legacy.

[holmcall]

The Klit-Chageav fight went according to script. No surprises
whatsoever. The thing that makes a Haye fight potentially intriguing is that Haye will take more risks. While that may likely put him in harm's way and get him chilled, it still will make for a more exciting fight. And if Haye
can somehow get Wlad to take some risks (which is not his wont), he just might have a chance to land that explosive right hand. All in all, a more fan-friendly affair.

[The Fightfan]

Everyone fails to recognize what Spicoli has said already. Wlad has a definitive comfort zone, when it is compromised he unravels. His only adjustment is to hold like he was clinging to a life preserver.

Those guys I mentioned came to fight.

Tyson
Lewis
Holyfield
Bowe
Moorer

Those guys were tough, had heart and a fighting spirit. The problem with the heavyweight division is, European fighters for the most part need to read there opposition from a comfort level and a distance.(Quote from Emmanuel Steward on how Ricky Hattons style was made to beat Tszyu)

Now when you look at the influx of European fighters that are in the Heavyweight division Chagaev, Imbragimov, Povetkin, Wlad Klitschko etc. They are good Boxers NOT GOOD FIGHTERS. Wlad being so big and enjoying a size advantage those guys cant outbox him. Yet they wouldnt try to press and push him and unravel him they try to box from the outside and they get picked off.

The guy that beats Wlad wont be a guy that out boxes him, its a guy who jumps in and presses and fights. Thats why fighters like David Haye and Chris Arreola are such intriguing matchups.

There going to try and fight and impose there will, there not safety 1st guys there the kind of exciting fighters that we come to enjoy from our Heavyweight Champion of the world. Its unimagineable to think a 6'7 240lb carved out of a statue physique who hits like a mule dosent finish a guy who he clearly out guns by a longshot, he dosent even try.

If Wlad was a Welterweight or Middle etc, than his style would be great, but he's the damn recognized HeavyWeight Champ of the world for Chrisesakes TRY TO FRIGGIN FIGHT!!!

Wlad hasnt even had a career defining fight that galvanizes his legacy.

Good post for the most part but I do ask about the fighter's who have jumped in and fought him, you mean too tell not one of them has already try this without Wlad knocking the shit out of them. Thing is yes maybe there would be fighter's who jump in like Haye or Arreola but it's the fact that the would be hit so cleanly and hard as hell they will basically unravel themselves saying "holy fuck I'd better not do that again" alas making their style and the fight reverert back to a "boring ass" Wlad controlled fight.

[JT Rock]

Everyone fails to recognize what Spicoli has said already. Wlad has a definitive comfort zone, when it is compromised he unravels. His only adjustment is to hold like he was clinging to a life preserver.

Those guys I mentioned came to fight.

Tyson
Lewis
Holyfield
Bowe
Moorer

Those guys were tough, had heart and a fighting spirit. The problem with the heavyweight division is, European fighters for the most part need to read there opposition from a comfort level and a distance.(Quote from Emmanuel Steward on how Ricky Hattons style was made to beat Tszyu)

Now when you look at the influx of European fighters that are in the Heavyweight division Chagaev, Imbragimov, Povetkin, Wlad Klitschko etc. They are good Boxers NOT GOOD FIGHTERS. Wlad being so big and enjoying a size advantage those guys cant outbox him. Yet they wouldnt try to press and push him and unravel him they try to box from the outside and they get picked off.

The guy that beats Wlad wont be a guy that out boxes him, its a guy who jumps in and presses and fights. Thats why fighters like David Haye and Chris Arreola are such intriguing matchups.

There going to try and fight and impose there will, there not safety 1st guys there the kind of exciting fighters that we come to enjoy from our Heavyweight Champion of the world. Its unimagineable to think a 6'7 240lb carved out of a statue physique who hits like a mule dosent finish a guy who he clearly out guns by a longshot, he dosent even try.

If Wlad was a Welterweight or Middle etc, than his style would be great, but he's the damn recognized HeavyWeight Champ of the world for Chrisesakes TRY TO FRIGGIN FIGHT!!!

Wlad hasnt even had a career defining fight that galvanizes his legacy.

Good post for the most part but I do ask about the fighter's who have jumped in and fought him, you mean too tell not one of them has already try this without Wlad knocking the shit out of them. Thing is yes maybe there would be fighter's who jump in like Haye or Arreola but it's the fact that the would be hit so cleanly and hard as hell they will basically unravel themselves saying "holy fuck I'd better not do that again" alas making their style and the fight reverert back to a "boring ass" Wlad controlled fight.

The point is the same as Sanders and Brewster. They sold out because they knew Wlad would unravel because of his chin and he did and will.

[The Fightfan]

Everyone fails to recognize what Spicoli has said already. Wlad has a definitive comfort zone, when it is compromised he unravels. His only adjustment is to hold like he was clinging to a life preserver.

Those guys I mentioned came to fight.

Tyson
Lewis
Holyfield
Bowe
Moorer

Those guys were tough, had heart and a fighting spirit. The problem with the heavyweight division is, European fighters for the most part need to read there opposition from a comfort level and a distance.(Quote from Emmanuel Steward on how Ricky Hattons style was made to beat Tszyu)

Now when you look at the influx of European fighters that are in the Heavyweight division Chagaev, Imbragimov, Povetkin, Wlad Klitschko etc. They are good Boxers NOT GOOD FIGHTERS. Wlad being so big and enjoying a size advantage those guys cant outbox him. Yet they wouldnt try to press and push him and unravel him they try to box from the outside and they get picked off.

The guy that beats Wlad wont be a guy that out boxes him, its a guy who jumps in and presses and fights. Thats why fighters like David Haye and Chris Arreola are such intriguing matchups.

There going to try and fight and impose there will, there not safety 1st guys there the kind of exciting fighters that we come to enjoy from our Heavyweight Champion of the world. Its unimagineable to think a 6'7 240lb carved out of a statue physique who hits like a mule dosent finish a guy who he clearly out guns by a longshot, he dosent even try.

If Wlad was a Welterweight or Middle etc, than his style would be great, but he's the damn recognized HeavyWeight Champ of the world for Chrisesakes TRY TO FRIGGIN FIGHT!!!

Wlad hasnt even had a career defining fight that galvanizes his legacy.

Good post for the most part but I do ask about the fighter's who have jumped in and fought him, you mean too tell not one of them has already try this without Wlad knocking the shit out of them. Thing is yes maybe there would be fighter's who jump in like Haye or Arreola but it's the fact that the would be hit so cleanly and hard as hell they will basically unravel themselves saying "holy fuck I'd better not do that again" alas making their style and the fight reverert back to a "boring ass" Wlad controlled fight.

The point is the same as Sanders and Brewster. They sold out because they knew Wlad would unravel because of his chin and he did and will.

But you do think Wlad has changed since those fight's ? The way he is fighting now is it not protecting his chin now? Those fight's were long ago and as of now he is on a roll and from what I believe exactley what Flores was saying he looks completley relaxed and confident. I think that is the difference between Wlad now and Wlad of a few years back.

[JT Rock]

Good post for the most part but I do ask about the fighter's who have jumped in and fought him, you mean too tell not one of them has already try this without Wlad knocking the shit out of them. Thing is yes maybe there would be fighter's who jump in like Haye or Arreola but it's the fact that the would be hit so cleanly and hard as hell they will basically unravel themselves saying "holy fuck I'd better not do that again" alas making their style and the fight reverert back to a "boring ass" Wlad controlled fight.

The point is the same as Sanders and Brewster. They sold out because they knew Wlad would unravel because of his chin and he did and will.

But you do think Wlad has changed since those fight's ? The way he is fighting now is it not protecting his chin now? Those fight's were long ago and as of now he is on a roll and from what I believe exactley what Flores was saying he looks completley relaxed and confident. I think that is the difference between Wlad now and Wlad of a few years back.

yea but no matter what you cant change your chin, you have one or you dont. he is confident because the fights are all the way he dictates the pace. Wlad's opponents try to out box him, they stay at the end of his jab and are dumb enough to circle to his right hand and boom, wash rinse and repeat. When Wlad fights a live body and a banger then we'll see how confident he is.