How skilled is Wladimir Klitschko really?

[DaxxKahn]

even his fans admit this.

he's a basic fighter. he and wladimir klitschko are called robots for a reason. i don't see how you can't see that. he fights in a division full of basic fighters and he's the least flawed one. The jab and the 1-2 is his bread and butter. he's a fine fighter and i like watching his fights but he's no technician.

firstly, are you only skillful if you are a 'technician'?
Secondly, I'm not sure his fans would refer to him as a 'robot'. Yes, he does fight in straight lines, but he moves well in these straight lines, in and out of range, in a subtle way. You also say he relys on the 1-2, but surely you can see he posesses a mean uppercut, not just powerful, but delivered with expert timing and speed. Is this not a 'skill'? I'm not saying he is the most skilled fighter ever, but calling him a 'robot', or a 'basic European fighter' is going too far. I think he combines a decent set of 'skill' with good power, chin and heart.

don't know what you're getting at. i'm not sure why you're even mentioning his chin and heart. Like I said, he's a fine fighter and he's very effective, but he's as basic as an elite boxer can get. his uppercut is delivered with expert timing and speed? hardly. Go watch Vernon Forrest.

.....WTF does Vernon Forrest have to do with this discussion

[jokaleras]

firstly, are you only skillful if you are a 'technician'?
Secondly, I'm not sure his fans would refer to him as a 'robot'. Yes, he does fight in straight lines, but he moves well in these straight lines, in and out of range, in a subtle way. You also say he relys on the 1-2, but surely you can see he posesses a mean uppercut, not just powerful, but delivered with expert timing and speed. Is this not a 'skill'? I'm not saying he is the most skilled fighter ever, but calling him a 'robot', or a 'basic European fighter' is going too far. I think he combines a decent set of 'skill' with good power, chin and heart.

don't know what you're getting at. i'm not sure why you're even mentioning his chin and heart. Like I said, he's a fine fighter and he's very effective, but he's as basic as an elite boxer can get. his uppercut is delivered with expert timing and speed? hardly. Go watch Vernon Forrest.

.....WTF does Vernon Forrest have to do with this discussion

wow. you can't be serious. looks like you just wanted to bump the thread.

[ryanman]

don't know what you're getting at. i'm not sure why you're even mentioning his chin and heart. Like I said, he's a fine fighter and he's very effective, but he's as basic as an elite boxer can get. his uppercut is delivered with expert timing and speed? hardly. Go watch Vernon Forrest.

.....WTF does Vernon Forrest have to do with this discussion

wow. you can't be serious. looks like you just wanted to bump the thread.

Huh?you're confusing me now, you mention Vernon Forrest, Daxx then asks what Forrest has to do with the discussion, you then say he can't be serious and is trying to bump the thread?! What on earth are you talking about?

[jokaleras]

shut up dumbass.

[ryanman]

shut up dumbass.

you are a bit of a clown aren't you?

[jokaleras]

haha. that's rich coming from you. moron.

[ryanman]

haha. that's rich coming from you. moron.

Yes, thanks for that. You are a welcome addition to the board. You insulted people from your first post. Anyway, can't be bothered to take up valuable space with a to and fro 'you're an arse' match. Oh, thanks for the -1 rep. That hurts.