Ward Outpoints Kessler!!!!!

[Dark Lord Al]

The one dimentional Kessler was exposed by a 20 fight novice , takes away the shine of a certain Mr Calzaghe's best win dont you think guys ?

No offence but calzaghe was the best boxer in this division for years, lets not forget that jeff lacey was one of the most feared boxers in the division and calzaghe made him look very stupid, kessler got screwed by a bad referee.

Lacy was proved to be a total bum .

[Cleon]

Andre Ward was awesome
Sure he got away with some holding & hitting
But nothing was stopping Kessler from trying the same
Mikkel just couldn't fight on the inside
& was getting an ass whuppin on the outside

[Fenster]

agree with killersheep, 1st looked accidental and the 2nd looked pretty intentional, but seriously don't see what the uproar is all about, when Froch hit Dirrell in the back of the head for 12 rounds and did 2 intentional cheap shots at the break without even getting a warning, yet some of the guys who had him "doing more" to get the win are here bitching about the Ward/Kessler fight, seems some Brits are just upset that although the other two US fighters lost, the last American left picked up the biggest win in the tourney

I think this is silly. Britain and Denmark are two completely different countrys with no ties to one another whatsoever. It's like some one from Britain saying your upset because a fighter from Brazil was Robbed.

It amazing how small the knowledge of the continent Europe is.

i know Britain and Denmark are 2 completely different countries, but they both are European countries and i only was referring to the Brits being upset cause well lets face it about 60% of the people on here are Brits, and from what i've seen most of the ones bitching and moaning about Ward are the same ones that were praising Froch

like Fenster said when Abraham and Froch won, only one American was left, and he made a huge splash last night, one questions Fenster........

DOES IT STING TO KNOW THAT AN AMERICAN FIGHTER HAS THE BIGGEST, AND THE MOST MEANINGFUL WIN IN THE TOURNEY? HAHAHAHAHA

Abraham is from Germany. His spectacular, possible career ending, KO of Taylor was the most impressive showing of the first round.

Jesus was very good but unfortunately won because of headbutts. How can we say for sure Kessler wouldn't have found a dynamite blow in the final round - like Froch did to Taylor?

So the impressive factor for round 1 goes like this..

1. Abraham
2. Frochy
3. Jesus
4. Dirrell
5. Kessler
6. Taylor

The Euro's are still dominating this thing. Fact.

[HattonTheHammer]

I think this is silly. Britain and Denmark are two completely different countrys with no ties to one another whatsoever. It's like some one from Britain saying your upset because a fighter from Brazil was Robbed.

It amazing how small the knowledge of the continent Europe is.

i know Britain and Denmark are 2 completely different countries, but they both are European countries and i only was referring to the Brits being upset cause well lets face it about 60% of the people on here are Brits, and from what i've seen most of the ones bitching and moaning about Ward are the same ones that were praising Froch

like Fenster said when Abraham and Froch won, only one American was left, and he made a huge splash last night, one questions Fenster........

DOES IT STING TO KNOW THAT AN AMERICAN FIGHTER HAS THE BIGGEST, AND THE MOST MEANINGFUL WIN IN THE TOURNEY? HAHAHAHAHA

Abraham is from Germany. His spectacular, possible career ending, KO of Taylor was the most impressive showing of the first round.

Jesus was very good but unfortunately won because of headbutts. How can we say for sure Kessler wouldn't have found a dynamite blow in the final round - like Froch did to Taylor?

So the impressive factor for round 1 goes like this..

1. Abraham
2. Frochy
3. Jesus
4. Dirrell
5. Kessler
6. Taylor

The Euro's are still dominating this thing. Fact.

he`s actually armenian

id have the current rankings for the 6 at....

1.Abraham
2.Froch
3.Ward
4.Kessler
5.Dirrell
6.Taylor

[Fenster]

i know Britain and Denmark are 2 completely different countries, but they both are European countries and i only was referring to the Brits being upset cause well lets face it about 60% of the people on here are Brits, and from what i've seen most of the ones bitching and moaning about Ward are the same ones that were praising Froch

like Fenster said when Abraham and Froch won, only one American was left, and he made a huge splash last night, one questions Fenster........

DOES IT STING TO KNOW THAT AN AMERICAN FIGHTER HAS THE BIGGEST, AND THE MOST MEANINGFUL WIN IN THE TOURNEY? HAHAHAHAHA

Abraham is from Germany. His spectacular, possible career ending, KO of Taylor was the most impressive showing of the first round.

Jesus was very good but unfortunately won because of headbutts. How can we say for sure Kessler wouldn't have found a dynamite blow in the final round - like Froch did to Taylor?

So the impressive factor for round 1 goes like this..

1. Abraham
2. Frochy
3. Jesus
4. Dirrell
5. Kessler
6. Taylor

The Euro's are still dominating this thing. Fact.

he`s actually armenian

id have the current rankings for the 6 at....

1.Abraham
2.Froch
3.Ward
4.Kessler
5.Dirrell
6.Taylor

From Germany.

[HattonTheHammer]

Abraham is from Germany. His spectacular, possible career ending, KO of Taylor was the most impressive showing of the first round.

Jesus was very good but unfortunately won because of headbutts. How can we say for sure Kessler wouldn't have found a dynamite blow in the final round - like Froch did to Taylor?

So the impressive factor for round 1 goes like this..

1. Abraham
2. Frochy
3. Jesus
4. Dirrell
5. Kessler
6. Taylor

The Euro's are still dominating this thing. Fact.

he`s actually armenian

id have the current rankings for the 6 at....

1.Abraham
2.Froch
3.Ward
4.Kessler
5.Dirrell
6.Taylor

From Germany.

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If a dog lives in a stable it doesnt make him a horse!!

[Fenster]

he`s actually armenian

id have the current rankings for the 6 at....

1.Abraham
2.Froch
3.Ward
4.Kessler
5.Dirrell
6.Taylor

From Germany.

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If a dog lives in a stable it doesnt make him a horse!!

Is he a German citizen? Yes.
Does he live in Germany? Yes.

So explain exactly what part of "from Germany" is wrong?

[HattonTheHammer]

From Germany.

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If a dog lives in a stable it doesnt make him a horse!!

Is he a German citizen? Yes.
Does he live in Germany? Yes.

So explain exactly what part of "from Germany" is wrong?

Im not claiming he doesnt fight out of germany

but c`mon....is kevin pietersen english?, is aliou diarra french?

[Fenster]

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If a dog lives in a stable it doesnt make him a horse!!

Is he a German citizen? Yes.
Does he live in Germany? Yes.

So explain exactly what part of "from Germany" is wrong?

Im not claiming he doesnt fight out of germany

but c`mon....is kevin pietersen english?, is aliou diarra french?

I said where he is from. Whom he choses to repesent. And this is the stupidest fucking "argument" i've ever had. So lets end it with he's an Armenian-German

[ElTerribleMorales]

I think this is silly. Britain and Denmark are two completely different countrys with no ties to one another whatsoever. It's like some one from Britain saying your upset because a fighter from Brazil was Robbed.

It amazing how small the knowledge of the continent Europe is.

i know Britain and Denmark are 2 completely different countries, but they both are European countries and i only was referring to the Brits being upset cause well lets face it about 60% of the people on here are Brits, and from what i've seen most of the ones bitching and moaning about Ward are the same ones that were praising Froch

like Fenster said when Abraham and Froch won, only one American was left, and he made a huge splash last night, one questions Fenster........

DOES IT STING TO KNOW THAT AN AMERICAN FIGHTER HAS THE BIGGEST, AND THE MOST MEANINGFUL WIN IN THE TOURNEY? HAHAHAHAHA

Abraham is from Germany. His spectacular, possible career ending, KO of Taylor was the most impressive showing of the first round.

Jesus was very good but unfortunately won because of headbutts. How can we say for sure Kessler wouldn't have found a dynamite blow in the final round - like Froch did to Taylor?

So the impressive factor for round 1 goes like this..

1. Abraham
2. Frochy
3. Jesus
4. Dirrell
5. Kessler
6. Taylor

The Euro's are still dominating this thing. Fact.

yea cause knocking out a guy who was the weakest fighter in the tourney and who had been KO'd in the last fight before the tourney is more impressive than dominating the guy who many picked to win the whole thing

difference between Froch/Taylor and Kessler/Ward is that Froch started coming on from the 8th or 9th round on, and Taylor looked obviously gassed, Ward won every round on my card but one, and he was giving no signs of slowing down, again how the hell can you complain about fouling when Froch is the undisputed champ of fighting dirty, yet when he did it your reasoning was "he was making it a fight"

and like i've said time and time again, the crack you smoke must be strong as hell to think that a KO over a shot fighter and a gift split decision are more impressive than COMPLETELY DOMINATING the guy that nearly everyone had picked to win the whole damn thing, get off your high horse bud

[Fenster]

i know Britain and Denmark are 2 completely different countries, but they both are European countries and i only was referring to the Brits being upset cause well lets face it about 60% of the people on here are Brits, and from what i've seen most of the ones bitching and moaning about Ward are the same ones that were praising Froch

like Fenster said when Abraham and Froch won, only one American was left, and he made a huge splash last night, one questions Fenster........

DOES IT STING TO KNOW THAT AN AMERICAN FIGHTER HAS THE BIGGEST, AND THE MOST MEANINGFUL WIN IN THE TOURNEY? HAHAHAHAHA

Abraham is from Germany. His spectacular, possible career ending, KO of Taylor was the most impressive showing of the first round.

Jesus was very good but unfortunately won because of headbutts. How can we say for sure Kessler wouldn't have found a dynamite blow in the final round - like Froch did to Taylor?

So the impressive factor for round 1 goes like this..

1. Abraham
2. Frochy
3. Jesus
4. Dirrell
5. Kessler
6. Taylor

The Euro's are still dominating this thing. Fact.

yea cause knocking out a guy who was the weakest fighter in the tourney and who had been KO'd in the last fight before the tourney is more impressive than dominating the guy who many picked to win the whole thing

difference between Froch/Taylor and Kessler/Ward is that Froch started coming on from the 8th or 9th round on, and Taylor looked obviously gassed, Ward won every round on my card but one, and he was giving no signs of slowing down, again how the hell can you complain about fouling when Froch is the undisputed champ of fighting dirty, yet when he did it your reasoning was "he was making it a fight"

and like i've said time and time again, the crack you smoke must be strong as hell to think that a KO over a shot fighter and a gift split decision are more impressive than COMPLETELY DOMINATING the guy that nearly everyone had picked to win the whole damn thing, get off your high horse bud

Where have I complained about fouls? When have I ever said it was OK for Froch to foul because "he was making it a fight"

You've just made that up old son. Or maybe you've confused me with someone else.

I believe Abraham's spectacular KO was a more impressive viewing spectacle than Jesus winning a TD because of headbutts. Frankly I fail to see how anyone could differ. Fact.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Abraham is from Germany. His spectacular, possible career ending, KO of Taylor was the most impressive showing of the first round.

Jesus was very good but unfortunately won because of headbutts. How can we say for sure Kessler wouldn't have found a dynamite blow in the final round - like Froch did to Taylor?

So the impressive factor for round 1 goes like this..

1. Abraham
2. Frochy
3. Jesus
4. Dirrell
5. Kessler
6. Taylor

The Euro's are still dominating this thing. Fact.

yea cause knocking out a guy who was the weakest fighter in the tourney and who had been KO'd in the last fight before the tourney is more impressive than dominating the guy who many picked to win the whole thing

difference between Froch/Taylor and Kessler/Ward is that Froch started coming on from the 8th or 9th round on, and Taylor looked obviously gassed, Ward won every round on my card but one, and he was giving no signs of slowing down, again how the hell can you complain about fouling when Froch is the undisputed champ of fighting dirty, yet when he did it your reasoning was "he was making it a fight"

and like i've said time and time again, the crack you smoke must be strong as hell to think that a KO over a shot fighter and a gift split decision are more impressive than COMPLETELY DOMINATING the guy that nearly everyone had picked to win the whole damn thing, get off your high horse bud

Where have I complained about fouls? When have I ever said it was OK for Froch to foul because "he was making it a fight"

You've just made that up old son. Or maybe you've confused me with someone else.

I believe Abraham's spectacular KO was a more impressive viewing spectacle than Jesus winning a TD because of headbutts. Frankly I fail to see how anyone could differ. Fact.

how is it more impressive to brutally knock out a guy who is clearly past it (and was still giving Abraham trouble early on) than to clearly dominate the guy who was considered by many to be the best competitor in the tourney?
if the headbutts wouldn't of happened Ward would have gone on to win a 12 round UD by probably 119-109, it's not like the Froch/Dirrell fight in where it was clearly a hometown decision and where a bullshit point deduction would have made the difference on bullshit cards

[Fenster]

yea cause knocking out a guy who was the weakest fighter in the tourney and who had been KO'd in the last fight before the tourney is more impressive than dominating the guy who many picked to win the whole thing

difference between Froch/Taylor and Kessler/Ward is that Froch started coming on from the 8th or 9th round on, and Taylor looked obviously gassed, Ward won every round on my card but one, and he was giving no signs of slowing down, again how the hell can you complain about fouling when Froch is the undisputed champ of fighting dirty, yet when he did it your reasoning was "he was making it a fight"

and like i've said time and time again, the crack you smoke must be strong as hell to think that a KO over a shot fighter and a gift split decision are more impressive than COMPLETELY DOMINATING the guy that nearly everyone had picked to win the whole damn thing, get off your high horse bud

Where have I complained about fouls? When have I ever said it was OK for Froch to foul because "he was making it a fight"

You've just made that up old son. Or maybe you've confused me with someone else.

I believe Abraham's spectacular KO was a more impressive viewing spectacle than Jesus winning a TD because of headbutts. Frankly I fail to see how anyone could differ. Fact.

how is it more impressive to brutally knock out a guy who is clearly past it (and was still giving Abraham trouble early on) than to clearly dominate the guy who was considered by many to be the best competitor in the tourney?
if the headbutts wouldn't of happened Ward would have gone on to win a 12 round UD by probably 119-109, it's not like the Froch/Dirrell fight in where it was clearly a hometown decision and where a bullshit point deduction would have made the difference on bullshit cards

More impressive spectacle old son.

If Jesus had won by UD instead of TD, I still would have been less impressed with Jesus than Abraham.

However.. if Jesus had won by UD instead of TD, I would have ranked him 2nd ahead of Frochy. But the fact is the fight never went 12 completed rounds, so we will never be entirely sure that Kessler would'nt have won by late KO.

Jesus loses a few marks for that, but i'm sure he'll rise again.

[JazMerkin]

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If a dog lives in a stable it doesnt make him a horse!!

Is he a German citizen? Yes.
Does he live in Germany? Yes.

So explain exactly what part of "from Germany" is wrong?

Im not claiming he doesnt fight out of germany

but c`mon....is kevin pietersen english?, is aliou diarra french?

Yes he definitely is, whatever way you look at it.

Anyway after the first round I'd rank them in order as

1. Abraham
2. Ward
3. Dirrell
4. Kessler
5. Taylor
6. Froch

[TheMacMagician]

I've now got them like this, but after saturday night, anything is now possible. Personally, although i was initialll really dissapointed with Dirrell, i'm hoping that he learnt alot from the Froch fight in terms of applying more aggression with his ability and movement, and pushing it a little bit more. If he mixes it more, i think he can win for sure.... I can see Dirrell having the ability to box Abrahams ears off... If Taylor can stay out of the way of AA's bombs for almost the entire fight, he won't get anywhere near Dirrell. Its all down to whether Dirrell will throw enough.....

1. Abraham
2. Ward
3. Dirrell
4. Kessler
5. Froch
6. Taylor