Clottey v. Pacquiao

[mad_takamura]

i think clottey can definitely beat pacquiao but this fight will never happen because roach would never risk his cashcow pacquiao against a very dangerous fighter. besides, clottey wouldn't bring in the big bucks that pacquiao now demands. i also think clottey would walk through pacquiao's punches unlike cotto who's punch resistance isn't as good as clottey's. i also think clottey's superior jab would give pacquiao all kinds of problems and would have him dazed and confused. morales and marquez showed the way to beat pacquiao and that is by using a very good strong jab to keep pacquiao off balance. i think clottey wins this one in a war by late TKO.

Morales and marquez showed the way and de la hoya followed. What did pac do against that blueprint jab? Lead lefties then rolling under to the side. Hoya is known for his good jabs and killer left hooks yet because pac is faster than him, and even if hoya pursues pac with a barrage, pac is only going to duck those punches ala calderon and get away. That's what he's going to do to clottey too. Plus the jmm and em fights are years ago, pac definitely improved and stepped up to his game.
I definitely want this fight to happen and we can have an avatar bet to see who wins. But like you said clottey is low reward for pac. But i disagree with you that he is a risk. Believe me, as strong as clottey is, pac is only going to toy with him.

[Taeth]

i think clottey can definitely beat pacquiao but this fight will never happen because roach would never risk his cashcow pacquiao against a very dangerous fighter. besides, clottey wouldn't bring in the big bucks that pacquiao now demands. i also think clottey would walk through pacquiao's punches unlike cotto who's punch resistance isn't as good as clottey's. i also think clottey's superior jab would give pacquiao all kinds of problems and would have him dazed and confused. morales and marquez showed the way to beat pacquiao and that is by using a very good strong jab to keep pacquiao off balance. i think clottey wins this one in a war by late TKO.

Morales and marquez showed the way and de la hoya followed. What did pac do against that blueprint jab? Lead lefties then rolling under to the side. Hoya is known for his good jabs and killer left hooks yet because pac is faster than him, and even if hoya pursues pac with a barrage, pac is only going to duck those punches ala calderon and get away. That's what he's going to do to clottey too. Plus the jmm and em fights are years ago, pac definitely improved and stepped up to his game.
I definitely want this fight to happen and we can have an avatar bet to see who wins. But like you said clottey is low reward for pac. But i disagree with you that he is a risk. Believe me, as strong as clottey is, pac is only going to toy with him.

Comparing PAcquiao's defensive skills to Calderon's is laughable, the biggest problem OScar had with Pacquiao was footspeed, and the fact he never threw a legitimate jab the whole night, it was a distance finder the entire fight. Marquez, Morales, Cotto, and Marquez all landed their jabs on PAcquiao with ease and regularity. The problem is none of them are great and hitting and not being hit which is something Clottey is better at, and Mayweather is the master of, unfortunately Clottey is too much of a sitting target who doesn't throw enough punches.

[miron_lang]

Clottey beats Pacquiao in these forums.

see the light

How many times do we have to heed the lessons of the past to look at the bright light?

-Takamura

[hitmanhatton]

Clottey beats Pacquiao in these forums.

see the light

How many times do we have to heed the lessons of the past to look at the bright light?

-Takamura

lessons of the past? im pretty sure pac hasnt fought clottey so that cant work can it

style make fights...... just because he can beat DLH or Hatton or Cotto doesnt just mean he can automatically beat everyone they were capable of beating or had beat or whatever... just doesnt work like that

[salty trunks]

Clottey beats Pacquiao in these forums.

see the light

How many times do we have to heed the lessons of the past to look at the bright light?

-Takamura

lessons of the past? im pretty sure pac hasnt fought clottey so that cant work can it

style make fights...... just because he can beat DLH or Hatton or Cotto doesnt just mean he can automatically beat everyone they were capable of beating or had beat or whatever... just doesnt work like that

Thats correct especially using the examples of fighters that dont really fight anything like Clottey. He has a weapon thats a much bigger factor than his lack of action and thats his good stiff jab which has given Pac problems in the past, along with a much tighter defense.
Remember what Vernon Forrest said when he completely dismantled Shane Mosley? Beat him with a basic jab. Good jab and keeping the fight at the right distance offsets all that speed and fast punching, (not that Im comparing Clottey to Forrest)

[15rounder]

In my opinion, Clottey wins the first 2, maybe 3 rounds, then gets complacent like he always does. After that, the relentless pacman assault takes over.