Clottey v. Pacquiao

[salty trunks]

The jab worked well to get him close but the price he was paying for getting close was far greater than the damage he was doing with his jab.

Manny just beat him up inside and in the angles as he moved out, around, and away. You saw when he tried to box at distance later in the fight it was pretty ineffective.

[hitmanhatton]

The jab worked well to get him close but the price he was paying for getting close was far greater than the damage he was doing with his jab.

Manny just beat him up inside and in the angles as he moved out, around, and away. You saw when he tried to box at distance later in the fight it was pretty ineffective.

im pretty sure the jab is a long range shot ...... so i cant understand what the first bit is all about,

later on in the fight cotto had already been knocked down and was cut... so i wouldnt have expect much success at that point in the fight

fact of the matter is cotto threw himself into the way of manny's shots thinking he would be able to walk through them

and if he is so good at stopping the jab... why didnt he do this to marquez?

[salty trunks]

The jab worked well to get him close but the price he was paying for getting close was far greater than the damage he was doing with his jab.

Manny just beat him up inside and in the angles as he moved out, around, and away. You saw when he tried to box at distance later in the fight it was pretty ineffective.

im pretty sure the jab is a long range shot ...... so i cant understand what the first bit is all about,

later on in the fight cotto had already been knocked down and was cut... so i wouldnt have expect much success at that point in the fight

fact of the matter is cotto threw himself into the way of manny's shots thinking he would be able to walk through them

and if he is so good at stopping the jab... why didnt he do this to marquez?

The jab is a long range shot to bring you into range to setup your other punches wouldnt you agree? I think he used the jab with success as a way to get in close to throw his other shots but thats where it ended.
I think he eventually started to come in without a jab thinking he could land power punches that way.
Why Manny didnt do it to Marquez is because Marquez is more difficult to counter and hit cleanly than Cotto.

[JazMerkin]

I was rewatching Cotto-Pacquiao for the first time since fight night last night on TV & I realized that Cotto really didn't respect Pacquiao's power till the 4th round. Even then he tried to war it again in the 7th I think, at which point he got buzzed again. He then tried to stick & move his way to finishing the fight & his best round was probably the 10th where he boxed his way to the round solidly, by at no point trying to trade with him. But, by then he was in no condition to deal with him.

I always thought Pacquiao would destroy him, both because I think he's a superior fighter & because I thought Cotto took too much punishment in his fights particularly Margarito. But looking at it last night, I just wonder if Cotto had boxed more early, whether he might have been able to frustrate Pacquiao into making mistakes. I'm not sure he's disciplined enough to, as he only seems to box when he really has to, but it just made me wonder.

Clottey might well be able to frustrate him, but ultimately I think he'd take his foot off the gas enough that Pacquiao takes a decision.