Weight Gain: De Le Hoya vs Pac

[AdamGB]

Yeah, saying no was kind of bad but he could of just shrugged it off and walked away from it... like you said it's the contradictions, bargaining, back tracking and out right lying which have hurt him the most.

An utter PR disaster.

[rjj tszyu]

The fact that he's moved up the weights isn't too amazing. It's the fact that he moved through the weights and has not lost any explosiveness. Oscar got less explosive as he moved up in weight!

[Lance Uppercut]

I think Pacman was just fighting at too small of a weight to begin with.

[UKPH]

I think Pacman was just fighting at too small of a weight to begin with.

I think your right...even on his first 112 lbs title Pac can't even defend the title i think it was first title defense bcoz of overweight killing himself too much and likely was beaten and lose.

If we look out closely in his previous opponent (pre Barrera) he was bigger and taller most to his opponent, with the exception with Nadal Hussien at 122.

No doubt he was really tryin to be small at the beginning, when i look at him he was really malnourished on that time coz of hardships comin from a third world.

[blegit]

The fact that he's moved up the weights isn't too amazing. It's the fact that he moved through the weights and has not lost any explosiveness. Oscar got less explosive as he moved up in weight!

Totally agree. You can't look at just weight gain and leave it at that. Any fighter can go up in weight classes. Its how that fighter does and looks is what would raise the eyebrows. Especially being in the steroid era its natural to at least be open to the possibility anyone can be on it.

[Myk_Myk]

Yeah, saying no was kind of bad but he could of just shrugged it off and walked away from it... like you said it's the contradictions, bargaining, back tracking and out right lying which have hurt him the most.

An utter PR disaster.

Right, but my point was also that Pac and Cos reaction was what gave the whole thing traction. If he had reacted with a no compromise approach, he may not have had to walk away. Ultimately the sport may be the better for it, as the light that has shown on the issue could bring updated testing procedures.

And as humans we speculate when we don't have the answers.

And right or wrong on the part of PBF, Pac had the opportunity to quiet a lot of that speculation...