Pacquiao talking bollox....

[The Promoter]

That's an old excuse, it's no longer operative. That was the excuse after he's scared of needles and before he gets weakened by blood tests. Right now he didn't take the test because of some Phillipino pride thing that you wouldn't understand because you're not Phillipino.

Okay, so we'll take an exercise based on your premise. Let's say Manny is dirty, why would he agree to blood test up to 30 days before, urine tests up to fight time and then another blood test immediately following? Makes no sense. Why would Manny agree to anything beyond what is mandated by the boxing authorities/athletic commissions?

Why should Floyd Mayweather dictate the terms of drug testing or anything for that matter? Even if you don't buy that Manny could be superstitious why should he let PBF dictate the terms of anything? Manny has agreed to the most stringent drug testing in the history of boxing and that's not good enough for Floyd so screw it...Manny has earned the title of ATG and doesn't need to do anything that PBF tells him to.

Or maybe pbf's intentions all along were to push Manny's button's enough to prevent a fight, giving PBF an out while and saving his undefeated record?

Lol you had none with me anyway, but any credibility you may have had just went right there

Fortunately, I'll still be able to sleep at night, even though I live for your approval...LMAO

[Kirkland Laing]

he knows Manny is superstitious.

That's an old excuse, it's no longer operative. That was the excuse after he's scared of needles and before he gets weakened by blood tests. Right now he didn't take the test because of some Phillipino pride thing that you wouldn't understand because you're not Phillipino.

Okay, so we'll take an exercise based on your premise. Let's say Manny is dirty, why would he agree to blood test up to 30 days before, urine tests up to fight time and then another blood test immediately following? Makes no sense. Why would Manny agree to anything beyond what is mandated by the boxing authorities/athletic commissions?

Why should Floyd Mayweather dictate the terms of drug testing or anything for that matter? Even if you don't buy that Manny could be superstitious why should he let PBF dictate the terms of anything? Manny has agreed to the most stringent drug testing in the history of boxing and that's not good enough for Floyd so screw it...Manny has earned the title of ATG and doesn't need to do anything that PBF tells him to.

Or maybe pbf's intentions all along were to push Manny's button's enough to prevent a fight, giving PBF an out while and saving his undefeated record?

Why should Floyd agree to eight ounce gloves or a ten million dollar a pound fine for being overweight at the weigh-in? You can negotiate anything you want in a fight contract. Manny had the perfect opportunity to flatten all the steroid rumours and win a massive psychological victory over Floyd by just accepting the test but instead made a bunch of bs excuses. He made himself look guilty.

[The Promoter]

That's an old excuse, it's no longer operative. That was the excuse after he's scared of needles and before he gets weakened by blood tests. Right now he didn't take the test because of some Phillipino pride thing that you wouldn't understand because you're not Phillipino.

Okay, so we'll take an exercise based on your premise. Let's say Manny is dirty, why would he agree to blood test up to 30 days before, urine tests up to fight time and then another blood test immediately following? Makes no sense. Why would Manny agree to anything beyond what is mandated by the boxing authorities/athletic commissions?

Why should Floyd Mayweather dictate the terms of drug testing or anything for that matter? Even if you don't buy that Manny could be superstitious why should he let PBF dictate the terms of anything? Manny has agreed to the most stringent drug testing in the history of boxing and that's not good enough for Floyd so screw it...Manny has earned the title of ATG and doesn't need to do anything that PBF tells him to.

Or maybe pbf's intentions all along were to push Manny's button's enough to prevent a fight, giving PBF an out while and saving his undefeated record?

Why should Floyd agree to eight ounce gloves or a ten million dollar a pound fine for being overweight at the weigh-in? You can negotiate anything you want in a fight contract. Manny had the perfect opportunity to flatten all the steroid rumours and win a massive psychological victory over Floyd by just accepting the test but instead made a bunch of bs excuses. He made himself look guilty.

I guess if you don't understand drug testing, steroids or want to believe anything PBF says Manny does look guilty...

[Althugz]

Okay, so we'll take an exercise based on your premise. Let's say Manny is dirty, why would he agree to blood test up to 30 days before, urine tests up to fight time and then another blood test immediately following? Makes no sense. Why would Manny agree to anything beyond what is mandated by the boxing authorities/athletic commissions?

Why should Floyd Mayweather dictate the terms of drug testing or anything for that matter? Even if you don't buy that Manny could be superstitious why should he let PBF dictate the terms of anything? Manny has agreed to the most stringent drug testing in the history of boxing and that's not good enough for Floyd so screw it...Manny has earned the title of ATG and doesn't need to do anything that PBF tells him to.

Or maybe pbf's intentions all along were to push Manny's button's enough to prevent a fight, giving PBF an out while and saving his undefeated record?

Why should Floyd agree to eight ounce gloves or a ten million dollar a pound fine for being overweight at the weigh-in? You can negotiate anything you want in a fight contract. Manny had the perfect opportunity to flatten all the steroid rumours and win a massive psychological victory over Floyd by just accepting the test but instead made a bunch of bs excuses. He made himself look guilty.

I guess if you don't understand drug testing, steroids or want to believe anything PBF says Manny does look guilty...

Wow, you are legit stupid...

You are misinforming people who I hope are not just as foolish as you to believe that you know a damn thing about drug testing and steroids.

I apologise for keeping this thread alive..I certainly feel like I lost some brain cells in doing so but people talking nonsense piss me off.

[Kirkland Laing]

Okay, so we'll take an exercise based on your premise. Let's say Manny is dirty, why would he agree to blood test up to 30 days before, urine tests up to fight time and then another blood test immediately following? Makes no sense. Why would Manny agree to anything beyond what is mandated by the boxing authorities/athletic commissions?

Why should Floyd Mayweather dictate the terms of drug testing or anything for that matter? Even if you don't buy that Manny could be superstitious why should he let PBF dictate the terms of anything? Manny has agreed to the most stringent drug testing in the history of boxing and that's not good enough for Floyd so screw it...Manny has earned the title of ATG and doesn't need to do anything that PBF tells him to.

Or maybe pbf's intentions all along were to push Manny's button's enough to prevent a fight, giving PBF an out while and saving his undefeated record?

Why should Floyd agree to eight ounce gloves or a ten million dollar a pound fine for being overweight at the weigh-in? You can negotiate anything you want in a fight contract. Manny had the perfect opportunity to flatten all the steroid rumours and win a massive psychological victory over Floyd by just accepting the test but instead made a bunch of bs excuses. He made himself look guilty.

I guess if you don't understand drug testing, steroids or want to believe anything PBF says Manny does look guilty...

The people who do know about drug testing like the head of the USADA, who's forgotten more than you and me put together know about testing, says it's quite possible Manny is a juicer and that scheduled as opposed to random testing is a total waste of time. There are various links to his interviews in the previous threads on this. I'm going to go with the guy who knows what he's talking about on this one.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

That's an old excuse, it's no longer operative. That was the excuse after he's scared of needles and before he gets weakened by blood tests. Right now he didn't take the test because of some Phillipino pride thing that you wouldn't understand because you're not Phillipino.

Okay, so we'll take an exercise based on your premise. Let's say Manny is dirty, why would he agree to blood test up to 30 days before, urine tests up to fight time and then another blood test immediately following? Makes no sense. Why would Manny agree to anything beyond what is mandated by the boxing authorities/athletic commissions?

Why should Floyd Mayweather dictate the terms of drug testing or anything for that matter? Even if you don't buy that Manny could be superstitious why should he let PBF dictate the terms of anything? Manny has agreed to the most stringent drug testing in the history of boxing and that's not good enough for Floyd so screw it...Manny has earned the title of ATG and doesn't need to do anything that PBF tells him to.

Or maybe pbf's intentions all along were to push Manny's button's enough to prevent a fight, giving PBF an out while and saving his undefeated record?

Why should Floyd agree to eight ounce gloves or a ten million dollar a pound fine for being overweight at the weigh-in? You can negotiate anything you want in a fight contract. Manny had the perfect opportunity to flatten all the steroid rumours and win a massive psychological victory over Floyd by just accepting the test but instead made a bunch of bs excuses. He made himself look guilty.

It's because when Floyd was able to dictate the terms of the fight like in his fight with Juan Marquez, they used the eight ounce gloves.

[Kirkland Laing]

Okay, so we'll take an exercise based on your premise. Let's say Manny is dirty, why would he agree to blood test up to 30 days before, urine tests up to fight time and then another blood test immediately following? Makes no sense. Why would Manny agree to anything beyond what is mandated by the boxing authorities/athletic commissions?

Why should Floyd Mayweather dictate the terms of drug testing or anything for that matter? Even if you don't buy that Manny could be superstitious why should he let PBF dictate the terms of anything? Manny has agreed to the most stringent drug testing in the history of boxing and that's not good enough for Floyd so screw it...Manny has earned the title of ATG and doesn't need to do anything that PBF tells him to.

Or maybe pbf's intentions all along were to push Manny's button's enough to prevent a fight, giving PBF an out while and saving his undefeated record?

Why should Floyd agree to eight ounce gloves or a ten million dollar a pound fine for being overweight at the weigh-in? You can negotiate anything you want in a fight contract. Manny had the perfect opportunity to flatten all the steroid rumours and win a massive psychological victory over Floyd by just accepting the test but instead made a bunch of bs excuses. He made himself look guilty.

It's because when Floyd was able to dictate the terms of the fight like in his fight with Juan Marquez, they used the eight ounce gloves.

It's something Manny wanted and Floyd agreed to, it was a specific demand during the negotiations, just like Floyd demanded random testing. It's irrelevant what demands were made in other fights other than to show that there are always various demands made in negotiations for every fight.

[jahmez]

I'm half filipino and I'll tell you this. Filipinos are fucking wankers. They're all 3 foot tall, got little Manny beards, carry knives, smoke cheap Malboros and think they're Charles Bronson. One of them even told my "Americano" dad that he needed to start smoking his cigarettes with "style". On the other hand they're generous, loyal and if even though they act hard are really just little pussies. Plus their women treat me like a celebrity everytime my half white ass goes there. But they're still fucking wankers.

[miron_lang]

I'm half filipino and I'll tell you this. Filipinos are fucking wankers. They're all 3 foot tall, got little Manny beards, carry knives, smoke cheap Malboros and think they're Charles Bronson. One of them even told my "Americano" dad that he needed to start smoking his cigarettes with "style". On the other hand they're generous, loyal and if even though they act hard are really just little pussies. Plus their women treat me like a celebrity everytime my half white ass goes there. But they're still fucking wankers.

Is that on topic?


im sure you're an alt.

[Kirkland Laing]

I'm half filipino and I'll tell you this. Filipinos are fucking wankers. They're all 3 foot tall, got little Manny beards, carry knives, smoke cheap Malboros and think they're Charles Bronson. One of them even told my "Americano" dad that he needed to start smoking his cigarettes with "style". On the other hand they're generous, loyal and if even though they act hard are really just little pussies. Plus their women treat me like a celebrity everytime my half white ass goes there. But they're still fucking wankers.

Is that on topic?


im sure you're an alt.

Yes, that post is just ridiculous. None of them are three feet tall.

[DaxxKahn]

I'm half filipino and I'll tell you this. Filipinos are fucking wankers. They're all 3 foot tall, got little Manny beards, carry knives, smoke cheap Malboros and think they're Charles Bronson. One of them even told my "Americano" dad that he needed to start smoking his cigarettes with "style". On the other hand they're generous, loyal and if even though they act hard are really just little pussies. Plus their women treat me like a celebrity everytime my half white ass goes there. But they're still fucking wankers.

WTF does that have anything to do with it?....

Tell you what if they read your post the Women would lose interest in you real quick....

Keep the racial/Nationality insults to your self even if you are half whatever

[InTheNeutralCorner]

I'm half filipino and I'll tell you this. Filipinos are fucking wankers. They're all 3 foot tall, got little Manny beards, carry knives, smoke cheap Malboros and think they're Charles Bronson. One of them even told my "Americano" dad that he needed to start smoking his cigarettes with "style". On the other hand they're generous, loyal and if even though they act hard are really just little pussies. Plus their women treat me like a celebrity everytime my half white ass goes there. But they're still fucking wankers.

Don't be a racist, it has no place in this forum. We don't even know if you're really half of what you say you are.

[Chino]

It's because when Floyd was able to dictate the terms of the fight like in his fight with Juan Marquez, they used the eight ounce gloves

Floyd dictating the terms? Wait a minute. It is Pac and his team who asked for different things which Floyd agreed to: 50/50 split, date, gloves, $10,000,000 fine for weight, etc. Floyd just asked for a blood test which he was willing to take as well.

So no, it is not Floyd dictating terms, it's the other way around. Pac and his team asked for all kinds of things, Floyd asked for one and all kind of silly contradicting excuses were heard from Pac and his team and new excuses keep coming out.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

It's because when Floyd was able to dictate the terms of the fight like in his fight with Juan Marquez, they used the eight ounce gloves

Floyd dictating the terms? Wait a minute. It is Pac and his team who asked for different things which Floyd agreed to: 50/50 split, date, gloves, $10,000,000 fine for weight, etc. Floyd just asked for a blood test which he was willing to take as well.

So no, it is not Floyd dictating terms, it's the other way around. Pac and his team asked for all kinds of things, Floyd asked for one and all kind of silly contradicting excuses were heard from Pac and his team and new excuses keep coming out.

You misunderstood my statement. I was referring to the Mayweather-Marquez fight in there. Do you know who has a say in the size of the gloves that they used in that fight? Give me a guess. Why did they use the eight ounce gloves ? If Floyd did not have a problem with that glove size then, why would his fight with Pacquiao be any different?

This is the first time I'm seeing the 50/50 split being made to appear as a demand that Floyd agreed to. Didn't both fighters asked for a higher split of the purse? I see the 50/50 split as a mutual agreement by both parties.

Manny's choice of date is very limited because of his political ambition in the Philippines. It isn't like Floyd lost some advantage in agreeing on that date.

Floyd agreeing to that $ 10,000,000 shouldn't be a big deal because he has no problem staying within that weight limit. He was within that limit in his last fight. And I don't think they would place this in the contract just for Floyd (his team isn't that stupid). Didn't you think that Manny will also pay that amount if he also goes above that weight?

And you make it appear that Floyd's only demand was the blood test. Didn't they consider having the fight in Dallas and team Pacquiao was ready to go on a flight to Texas? And who refused that. Didn't Floyd want the fight to be in Vegas? This hasn't gained too much attention because IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A BIG DEAL, JUST LIKE THE OTHER DEALS THAT WERE MENTIONED ABOVE. Did you see any disadvantage on Floyd's part by him agreeing to those terms? The bood test is a different story and is debatable.

Okey, we are going to be reprimanded again for beating a dead horse.

[OumaFan]

It's because when Floyd was able to dictate the terms of the fight like in his fight with Juan Marquez, they used the eight ounce gloves

Floyd dictating the terms? Wait a minute. It is Pac and his team who asked for different things which Floyd agreed to: 50/50 split, date, gloves, $10,000,000 fine for weight, etc. Floyd just asked for a blood test which he was willing to take as well.

So no, it is not Floyd dictating terms, it's the other way around. Pac and his team asked for all kinds of things, Floyd asked for one and all kind of silly contradicting excuses were heard from Pac and his team and new excuses keep coming out.

How is 50/50 Manny dictating terms? And the date is dictating terms? LOL. They both dictated one major thing, the tests from Floyd and the weight penalty from Manny.

I don't even know why I've gotten involved in this moronic debate. I just kicked the f****** horse. Oh well.