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    Default Re: Pacquiao talking bollox....

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    I guess if you don't understand drug testing, steroids or want to believe anything PBF says Manny does look guilty...
    The people who do know about drug testing like the head of the USADA, who's forgotten more than you and me put together know about testing, says it's quite possible Manny is a juicer and that scheduled as opposed to random testing is a total waste of time. There are various links to his interviews in the previous threads on this. I'm going to go with the guy who knows what he's talking about on this one.
    Absolutely, we agree the USADA is a good testing agency. The USADA refers to what Floyd wants as the "gold standard". Unfortunately, that "gold standard" can test for literally thousands of substances set for by whatever the agency is requesting those tests. The USADA is even applauding PBF's contractual demands for such testing as it will mean even more relevance for them. Here lies the issues; who is going to maintain blood year round for comparative blood doping tests? Who is going to set the standards for hormonal level thresholds or what are banned or controlled substances for boxing? With Steroids, HGH, Narcotics that's an easy answer but Will Xylocaine like PBF uses be illegal? Will testosterone boosters be illegal, Creatine? Does PBF get to dictate what is and isn't illegal? Now, today boxing drug testing is a joke we all can agree to that and the ultimate goal is to have a good standard in place. The testing that I mentioned in earlier posts can basically be done on any genetic material and like any testing you have to target specific substances, and their levels. The DoD uses very stringent test based on the methods I described for urinalysis. Since they are testing Pilots and people with critical and dangerous professions these tests have lower thresholds than even the IOC. As you can see there are alternatives to blood testing beyond what Manny P. feels comfortable with, so why not use these?

    DOD Urinalysis (Drug Test) Cutoff Levels)
    Drug
    Screening Level (Nanograms per milliliter)
    Confirmation Level (Nanograms per milliliter)
    THC (Marijuana)
    50 NG/ML
    15 NG/ML
    Cocaine
    150 NG/ML
    100 NG/ML
    Opiates:


    Morphine
    2000 NG/ML
    4000 NG/ML
    Codeine
    2000 NG/ML
    2000 NG/ML
    Heroin (6 MAM)
    300 NG/ML
    10 NG/NL
    Amphetamines
    500 NG/ML
    500 NG/ML
    Methamphetamine
    500 NG/ML
    500 NG/ML
    MDA/MDMA (Ecstasy)
    500 NG/ML
    500 NG/ML
    Barbiturates (Amobarbital, butalbital, Pentobarbital, Secobarbital)
    200 NG/ML
    200 NG/ML
    PCP
    25 NG/ML
    25 NG/ML
    LSD
    .5 NG/ML
    0.2 NG/ML

    Drug Detection Windows
    Drug
    Detection Windows
    THC (Marijuana)
    1-3 Weeks*
    Cocaine
    2-4 Days
    Amphetamines
    2 Days
    Barbiturates
    1-2 Days
    Opiates`
    1-2 Days
    PCP
    5-7 Days
    LSD
    1-2 Days
    Steroids
    3 Days or Longer**
    Notes:
    * Longer than 3 weeks is indicative of chronic or heavy use.
    ** Length of detection determined by type and duration of use.
    Information Courtesy of Department of Defense, the United States Navy, and the Manual for Courts-Martial


    Don't misunderstand my argument of Manny being clean, he may be dirty for all I know. BUT, PBF's all or nothing approach to this matter is clearly a case of him trying to get into Manny's head more than him trying to do what right for the sport. There are other ways to test athletes even contrary to USADA.

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