A fight for the fans :: Pacquiao vs Williams

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Forrest has never fought Williams, so I don't see what that's about unless you mean Verno Phillips who is most definitely not a mover, he's an inside fighter who looks to get in close & bang away.

Plus if you'd seen more of Williams career, he's fought a number of southpaws who he had no problem with like Terrance Cauthen, Andy Kolle and Sharmba Mitchell. Williams gets caught because of his lack of defensive awareness rather than the southpaw stance.

He's fought plenty of leftys who he rolled over, in fact I don't believe he's fought an orthodox guy since Margarito apart from Phillips.

To be fair though Jaz none of those Southpaw's you mentioned, are that good except Sharmba Mitchell. who was decent, but even he was shot. And i seem to remember him buzzing Paul Williams aswell.

I really don't know if he does struggle against Southpaw's, or its due to the fact that both Quintana, Martinez. Were both just bad style match up's due to being slick movers.

But then again Sergio Martinez didn't do much moving, and he seem to be catching Paul Williams all the time with Southpaw right hooks, i also seem to remember Sharmba Mitchell buzzing him with a Southpaw right hook aswell.

Then again Ice what rightys has he fought who were any good? Margarito & that's it.

I think Mitchell buzzed him because he was a good fighter rather than the stance. Plus whilst Martinez wasn't moving all around the ring, he was doing some great slick work in front of Williams.

I think he really looks to struggle with slick guys and to me that's indicative of his poor amateur career.

I didn't know he had a poor Amateur career, so maybe your right there. But me personally i don't know, there's many ways too look at it. You could say well his hardest fights have come against Southpaw's.

And he is a sucker for a Southpaw right hook, but then you could say its hard too look good against Quintana, Martinez. And it could be just the style match up rather than the Southpaw stance.