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    Default Re: A fight for the fans :: Pacquiao vs Williams

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    To be fair though Jaz none of those Southpaw's you mentioned, are that good except Sharmba Mitchell. who was decent, but even he was shot. And i seem to remember him buzzing Paul Williams aswell.

    I really don't know if he does struggle against Southpaw's, or its due to the fact that both Quintana, Martinez. Were both just bad style match up's due to being slick movers.

    But then again Sergio Martinez didn't do much moving, and he seem to be catching Paul Williams all the time with Southpaw right hooks, i also seem to remember Sharmba Mitchell buzzing him with a Southpaw right hook aswell.
    Then again Ice what rightys has he fought who were any good? Margarito & that's it.

    I think Mitchell buzzed him because he was a good fighter rather than the stance. Plus whilst Martinez wasn't moving all around the ring, he was doing some great slick work in front of Williams.

    I think he really looks to struggle with slick guys and to me that's indicative of his poor amateur career.
    I didn't know he had a poor Amateur career, so maybe your right there. But me personally i don't know, there's many ways too look at it. You could say well his hardest fights have come against Southpaw's.

    And he is a sucker for a Southpaw right hook, but then you could say its hard too look good against Quintana, Martinez. And it could be just the style match up rather than the Southpaw stance.
    He had a short amateur career of like 21 fights & went 11-10 or something close to that. It was mentioned in a feature on him in The Ring last year.

    Don't quote me on the numbers, but I remember being shocked that an elite fighter had such a short & unaccomplished amateur background.

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    Default Re: A fight for the fans :: Pacquiao vs Williams

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    Then again Ice what rightys has he fought who were any good? Margarito & that's it.

    I think Mitchell buzzed him because he was a good fighter rather than the stance. Plus whilst Martinez wasn't moving all around the ring, he was doing some great slick work in front of Williams.

    I think he really looks to struggle with slick guys and to me that's indicative of his poor amateur career.
    I didn't know he had a poor Amateur career, so maybe your right there. But me personally i don't know, there's many ways too look at it. You could say well his hardest fights have come against Southpaw's.

    And he is a sucker for a Southpaw right hook, but then you could say its hard too look good against Quintana, Martinez. And it could be just the style match up rather than the Southpaw stance.
    He had a short amateur career of like 21 fights & went 11-10 or something close to that. It was mentioned in a feature on him in The Ring last year.

    Don't quote me on the numbers, but I remember being shocked that an elite fighter had such a short & unaccomplished amateur background.
    Well thanks for the info i personally didn't have a clue, about his Amateur backgroud. And really if you think about his lack of Amateur backgroud, is probably why he doesn't use his physical advantages.

    He often fights down to his opponents, when he doesn't have to. I'd really love to see him fight more technical. Whilst also using his physical advantages, he could be even better than he is now.

    But that is asking alot, and he has done very well considering his Amateur career. But it is frustrating to see such a physically gifted fighter, not use there god given attributes to there full effect.

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