A fight for the fans :: Pacquiao vs Williams

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Don't get me wrong, I think Manny would probably beat him, but he could probably keep it close, although that's assuming he could make 147 which I don't think he can.

But, it's clear to me that what he struggles with are people who move around him rather than southpaws. Now Manny can do this with his exceptional footwork, but I think many guys can. I think the fact that Martinez & Quintana are southpaws distracts people from the fact both of these guys are movers & fairly slick. I think even a guy like Cotto could have boxed rings round Williams as long as he didn't give in to his urge to engage in a firefight.

Williams totally wastes his natural advantages. He paws horribly with his jab & doesn't look to get the most out of his punches that he possibly could. Plus I think he's extremely vulnerable to speed. I think the Winky fight made him look much better than he is. Don't get me wrong he's a hell of a fighter, but perhaps not quite as good as we all bought into due the 'everyone is ducking me' debate.

I understand the mobility argument and it is a good one. However, Forrest was quite a mobile opponent and he didn't cause much difficulties to Williams at all. When you look back at the Quintana and the Martinez fight, the big left connect quite often too. I could agree that he has maybe been hyped a bit and that movement is something he doesn't like to deal with but from what I've seen, I am certain that the southpaw stance has something to do with it.

Forrest has never fought Williams, so I don't see what that's about unless you mean Verno Phillips who is most definitely not a mover, he's an inside fighter who looks to get in close & bang away.

Plus if you'd seen more of Williams career, he's fought a number of southpaws who he had no problem with like Terrance Cauthen, Andy Kolle and Sharmba Mitchell. Williams gets caught because of his lack of defensive awareness rather than the southpaw stance.

He's fought plenty of leftys who he rolled over, in fact I don't believe he's fought an orthodox guy since Margarito apart from Phillips.

To be fair though Jaz none of those Southpaw's you mentioned, are that good except Sharmba Mitchell. who was decent, but even he was shot. And i seem to remember him buzzing Paul Williams aswell.

I really don't know if he does struggle against Southpaw's, or its due to the fact that both Quintana, Martinez. Were both just bad style match up's due to being slick movers.

But then again Sergio Martinez didn't do much moving, and he seem to be catching Paul Williams all the time with Southpaw right hooks, i also seem to remember Sharmba Mitchell buzzing him with a Southpaw right hook aswell.