Lucian Bute

[DaxxKahn]

That doesn't make sense. You're saying Froch travelling doesn't prove he's willing to travel. Seriously, what the fuck?

Taylor was Froch's mandatory (when does the champion travel to the challenger?), the betting favourite and most "experts" picked him to win. So don't try and pass it off as some caluculated non-risk.

Of course fighting a former P4P undisputed middleweight champion will get you mainstream attention. How is that a negative? Unfortunately for Froch it didn't do much in the UK.

He could have eaisly done what Bute has - defend his belt against a bunch of c/b-level guys.

(Back to the point)

Bute's promoter told you about the England thing and then the arrogance and stipulations. Well he would say that. I'm sure Mick Hennessy has a different story.

From a neutrals perspective it's far harder to believe Bute was the willing traveller

I don't know if sometimes you are just ignorant or you just don't fucking pay attention to what you read...

Froch COULD HAVE MADE TAYLOR FIGHT HIM IN THE UK.....THEY DID NOT LOOK AT TAYLOR AS A BIG RISK SO THEY DECIDED IT WOULD BE A GREAT FIGHT TO MAKE HIS USA DEBUT WITH!!!!..

AGAIN THEY WERE USING THE FIGHT AS THE PERFECT TIME TO GET A BIGGER BROADCASTING AUDIENCE FOR FROCH.....

I PROMISE YOU THAT IF THE FIGHT WAS AGAINST A GUY THEY WERE NOT SURE ABOUT THEY WOULD NOT HAVE CAME HERE FOR THE FIGHT......

FROCH AND HIS PEOPLE WERE EMBARRASSED BECAUSE OF THE KNOCKDOWN....

IF YOU KNEW HALF AS MUCH ABOUT THE PROMOTERS THEMSELVES AND HALF AS MUCH ABOUT THE GOINGS ON BEHIND THE SCENES AS U THINK U DO BECAUSE OF WHAT U READ IN THE MEDIA U MIGHT NOT MAKE STUPID POST LIKE...

At no time did they think Froch was not going to beat Taylor....They counted on Taylor gassing, they counted on Taylor crumbling like he did in the Pavlik fight...They counted on the fact Taylor was abused in the 2 Pavlik fights, they counted on the fact before Pavlik he struggkled with 2 small LMW fighters and the fact he looked horrible against Lacy....They never expected Taylor to carry enough power to even knockdown Froch...Things did not go their way that is why they tried to pass off the whole...

"If you look at Carl Froch you know he is a 12 rd fighter who does his best work after the 9th".....Yet had only gone the distance 2 times prior....and has a KO% of over 75 at nthe time of the fight....They were trying to convince themselves more then anyone.....

That came from Mick Hennessy himself...But YOU would know that because you were at the press conference when me and 6 other writers 2 from the UK walked out...That was you somewhere in there no?....Were you the fat ass falling asleep in his coffee? OR were you the guy who could not get his camera to work?.....Because Mick came in first after Taylor and his people walked out started to speak then almost the whole room left but 7 writers some fat guy and a guy who could not get his camera to work....Y because of the SHIT Mick was trying to spout about Froch and his win over Taylor showing he is the best fighters from MW to CW and should be ranked #1 SMW and on the P4P list........Along with his future great bullshit.....BUT u knew all this yes?.......

You know the embarrassment they suffered by standing there with only his promoter trainer and family members he came to the US with long before the presser was done?....

Mainly because of the SHIT the high quality always honest Mick Hennessy was spouting....Making Don King and Frank Warren look like poster boys for truth and honesty.....

But please tell me more about Mick telling it how it is and more of Froch being the standout I will travel with my title because I am a CHAMPION stories of yours.....

Not that im defending Carl Froch because i hate his style, but plenty of people picked Jermain Taylor to beat Carl Froch including me. I think he looked fine vs Jeff Lacy, he won every round and dominated Jeff Lacy.

As for being abused by Kelly Pavlik in 2 fights, well the 1st fight was a war. With both men hurt and the fight was dead even until Kelly Pavlik caught up to him in the 7th round.

As for the rematch quite alot of people thought Jermain Taylor won the rematch. Not me personally but it was very close, i would hardly called that being abused.

Yes they were tough fights and they did take something out of Jermain Taylor, but that still didn't lead anyone to believe, Carl Froch would beat Jermain Taylor. Who was largely unproven other than a tough win in a war against Jean Pascal, who wasn't highly regarded at that time.

I personally don't think Carl Froch, would avoid any fighter. I agree his style sucks and his attitude stinks. But he gets the job done and his opposition in his last few fights Dirrell, Taylor, Pascal. Has been pretty solid IMO.

I also don't think Lucian Bute would avoid anyone either, he took the Librado Andrade rematch and manned up and won without any question marks, he also has some good underrated wins if you dig deeper into his record.

I just think it was bad timing for both fighters, but i have no doubt they will meet in the future. And no doubt my money will be on my boy Lucian Bute.

Opinion has nothing to do with it mate...Like an asshole i sit and fucking tell guys on here shit that I hear from promoters and shit I hear from the fighters themselves and other people involved and then I get back stupid ass comments about shit like "Mick Hennessy will have different to say"...Meanwhile it was Mick who sat and talked out of his ass before and during the fight on How this was Froch's coming out party in America and how they are now positive they did the right thing by deciding to make this the fight to showcase Froch I say I heard this shit from promoters etc....

I should learn that by now from now on not to tell anything I hear from promoters and fighters on the forum because the info received from press articles issued by PR reps obviously tell the whole truth and nothing but....

So lesson learned...

Since the press releases seem to be the thing that is iron clad around here..

Froch vs. Bute is Next if Andrade Deal Fails - Boxing News

As you can read Bute agreed to fight Froch in England...BUT some idiot here will of course make this out as something not true...