Haye v Klit - Negotiations underway confirms IBF

[Kev]

Well has he now come out and apologised for lying?

Does it really fucking matter??

We have a potential superfight in the HW division set to be signed in the next month and your bitching about little details that happened last year.

Haye is on board with Sky now and is the biggest named sports star in Britain at the minute, he has absolutley nothing to pull out for again and the fight WILL go ahead this time as long as the Klits don't demand 12 fucking rematches.

Why not whine about them circumstances instead of Hayes faults for once?? I've never heard anything like it..... "If you (haye) beat Wlad you must then fight his brother and then fight Wlad and then fight Vitali again". If that had happened none of them would have held a title by the end of it. It was pathetic.

Probably the biggest boxing star from the UK (I'd still speculate that Mayweather & maybe Pacquiao are bigger here), but he's nowhere near the level of any of the top name footballers. In terms of name recognition, I reckon he's still below a few of the rugby and cricket players as well.

You think Floyd and Manny are bigger stars in the UK than David Haye?

I doubt any more than 15% of the population even know who Floyd and Manny are

[JazMerkin]

Does it really fucking matter??

We have a potential superfight in the HW division set to be signed in the next month and your bitching about little details that happened last year.

Haye is on board with Sky now and is the biggest named sports star in Britain at the minute, he has absolutley nothing to pull out for again and the fight WILL go ahead this time as long as the Klits don't demand 12 fucking rematches.

Why not whine about them circumstances instead of Hayes faults for once?? I've never heard anything like it..... "If you (haye) beat Wlad you must then fight his brother and then fight Wlad and then fight Vitali again". If that had happened none of them would have held a title by the end of it. It was pathetic.

Probably the biggest boxing star from the UK (I'd still speculate that Mayweather & maybe Pacquiao are bigger here), but he's nowhere near the level of any of the top name footballers. In terms of name recognition, I reckon he's still below a few of the rugby and cricket players as well.

You think Floyd and Manny are bigger stars in the UK than David Haye?

I doubt any more than 15% of the population even know who Floyd and Manny are

I think you'd be surprised. People might not watch them fight, but I think they've both embedded into the public consciousness as boxers. Part of that may be the name. I'm seeing a lot more excitement for the Mayweather fight this weekend than there was for Haye-Ruiz or even Haye-Valuev. I'm not saying the PPV would do better, but that they have more name recognition with the average person.

[rjj tszyu]

Probably the biggest boxing star from the UK (I'd still speculate that Mayweather & maybe Pacquiao are bigger here), but he's nowhere near the level of any of the top name footballers. In terms of name recognition, I reckon he's still below a few of the rugby and cricket players as well.

You think Floyd and Manny are bigger stars in the UK than David Haye?

I doubt any more than 15% of the population even know who Floyd and Manny are

I think you'd be surprised. People might not watch them fight, but I think they've both embedded into the public consciousness as boxers. Part of that may be the name. I'm seeing a lot more excitement for the Mayweather fight this weekend than there was for Haye-Ruiz or even Haye-Valuev. I'm not saying the PPV would do better, but that they have more name recognition with the average person.

Difference is my mum and Grandma both know who David Haye is. I know they don't know who Kevin Pietersen, Johnny Wilkinson and Floyd Mayweather are. Even Rio Ferdinand says that Haye is the biggest named sports star in the country.

Only one I think challenges him is Rooney. Also maybe Ricky Hatton, his support is amazing. Man utd couldn't take as many fans to Vegas as he does and there is a full team of them. If Haye keeps bowling them over like he is he'll have the same support if not better because he is in the glamour division of boxing and he is exciting to watch.

[JazMerkin]

You think Floyd and Manny are bigger stars in the UK than David Haye?

I doubt any more than 15% of the population even know who Floyd and Manny are

I think you'd be surprised. People might not watch them fight, but I think they've both embedded into the public consciousness as boxers. Part of that may be the name. I'm seeing a lot more excitement for the Mayweather fight this weekend than there was for Haye-Ruiz or even Haye-Valuev. I'm not saying the PPV would do better, but that they have more name recognition with the average person.

Difference is my mum and Grandma both know who David Haye is. I know they don't know who Kevin Pietersen, Johnny Wilkinson and Floyd Mayweather are. Even Rio Ferdinand says that Haye is the biggest named sports star in the country.

Only one I think challenges him is Rooney. Also maybe Ricky Hatton, his support is amazing. Man utd couldn't take as many fans to Vegas as he does and there is a full team of them. If Haye keeps bowling them over like he is he'll have the same support if not better because he is in the glamour division of boxing and he is exciting to watch.

Sorry he's just nowhere near the likes of Rooney, Gerrard & Terry. I'd argue that both Flintoff & Wilkinson are also both ahead of him. It may be that your mum & nan know who Haye is through you being a fan and going to his fights. My mum needs reminding about who David Haye is despite the fact I've told her a number of times that he even came from the same gym as me. On the other hand, she'd know Floyd Mayweather & Shane Mosley are instantly because when I was growing up I was such a big fan of both of them.

Just generally with people I've met in the area I live in (South London, Haye's own area) Mayweather definitely has a quicker recognition factor, maybe because he's got a more individual name.

[Fenster]

Probably the biggest boxing star from the UK (I'd still speculate that Mayweather & maybe Pacquiao are bigger here), but he's nowhere near the level of any of the top name footballers. In terms of name recognition, I reckon he's still below a few of the rugby and cricket players as well.

You think Floyd and Manny are bigger stars in the UK than David Haye?

I doubt any more than 15% of the population even know who Floyd and Manny are

I think you'd be surprised. People might not watch them fight, but I think they've both embedded into the public consciousness as boxers. Part of that may be the name. I'm seeing a lot more excitement for the Mayweather fight this weekend than there was for Haye-Ruiz or even Haye-Valuev. I'm not saying the PPV would do better, but that they have more name recognition with the average person.

Where you seeing this then?

This fight has barely had a mention in the press.

[JazMerkin]

You think Floyd and Manny are bigger stars in the UK than David Haye?

I doubt any more than 15% of the population even know who Floyd and Manny are

I think you'd be surprised. People might not watch them fight, but I think they've both embedded into the public consciousness as boxers. Part of that may be the name. I'm seeing a lot more excitement for the Mayweather fight this weekend than there was for Haye-Ruiz or even Haye-Valuev. I'm not saying the PPV would do better, but that they have more name recognition with the average person.

Where you seeing this then?

This fight has barely had a mention in the press.

Just people talking about it on facebook and twitter. I agree it hasn't had much mention in the press, in contrast Froch did, but nobody was talking about it.

[rjj tszyu]

I think you'd be surprised. People might not watch them fight, but I think they've both embedded into the public consciousness as boxers. Part of that may be the name. I'm seeing a lot more excitement for the Mayweather fight this weekend than there was for Haye-Ruiz or even Haye-Valuev. I'm not saying the PPV would do better, but that they have more name recognition with the average person.

Where you seeing this then?

This fight has barely had a mention in the press.

Just people talking about it on facebook and twitter. I agree it hasn't had much mention in the press, in contrast Froch did, but nobody was talking about it.

Sorry Jaz but Haye-Valuev was everywhere. It was all over the papers, all over most TV stations and then after he won it, it was similar to when Lennox beat Evander. Every back page (and a lot of front) was filled with Haye for 4-5 days after the fight. It sold just short of 1 million ppv's on Sky which when you think there are 5 times as many people in the U.S. as Britain and they are doing brilliantly to sell 2 million PPV's is quite astounding IMO. I don't think 1 million people would buy a Football match between Man Utd and Liverpool or Chelsea for £15.

Although I could probably agree that Rooney, Giggs and Gerrard may well be more well known at the minute when I sit back and think about it. Haye in the next 12 months has the potential to leave them in the dust both in Britain and worldwide.

[JazMerkin]

Where you seeing this then?

This fight has barely had a mention in the press.

Just people talking about it on facebook and twitter. I agree it hasn't had much mention in the press, in contrast Froch did, but nobody was talking about it.

Sorry Jaz but Haye-Valuev was everywhere. It was all over the papers, all over most TV stations and then after he won it, it was similar to when Lennox beat Evander. Every back page (and a lot of front) was filled with Haye for 4-5 days after the fight. It sold just short of 1 million ppv's on Sky which when you think there are 5 times as many people in the U.S. as Britain and they are doing brilliantly to sell 2 million PPV's is quite astounding IMO. I don't think 1 million people would buy a Football match between Man Utd and Liverpool or Chelsea for £15.

Although I could probably agree that Rooney, Giggs and Gerrard may well be more well known at the minute when I sit back and think about it. Haye in the next 12 months has the potential to leave them in the dust both in Britain and worldwide.

Haye-Valuev was everywhere I agree, maybe outside of London it's different, but here Mayweather is bigger certainly with people under 25. He can be big, but football will always be the #1 game in this country and he will never surpass the biggest names there. I love boxing, but football players are our superstars, people might not pay £15 for a normal game, but I bet you'd have in the many millions who'd pay to watch the FA Cup Final, it's just all the biggest football games are actually protected to be on free tv.

[rjj tszyu]

Just people talking about it on facebook and twitter. I agree it hasn't had much mention in the press, in contrast Froch did, but nobody was talking about it.

Sorry Jaz but Haye-Valuev was everywhere. It was all over the papers, all over most TV stations and then after he won it, it was similar to when Lennox beat Evander. Every back page (and a lot of front) was filled with Haye for 4-5 days after the fight. It sold just short of 1 million ppv's on Sky which when you think there are 5 times as many people in the U.S. as Britain and they are doing brilliantly to sell 2 million PPV's is quite astounding IMO. I don't think 1 million people would buy a Football match between Man Utd and Liverpool or Chelsea for £15.

Although I could probably agree that Rooney, Giggs and Gerrard may well be more well known at the minute when I sit back and think about it. Haye in the next 12 months has the potential to leave them in the dust both in Britain and worldwide.

Haye-Valuev was everywhere I agree, maybe outside of London it's different, but here Mayweather is bigger certainly with people under 25. He can be big, but football will always be the #1 game in this country and he will never surpass the biggest names there. I love boxing, but football players are our superstars, people might not pay £15 for a normal game, but I bet you'd have in the many millions who'd pay to watch the FA Cup Final, it's just all the biggest football games are actually protected to be on free tv.

So do you think any footballer in history has been more famous than Ali then?? I'm really interested to hear your opinion on this.