De La Hoya: Pacquiao makes fighters lose on the scales 1st

[Gandalf]

Margarito is a career WW, but he has fought at JMW in the past and since coming back has fought as a JMW. He had a long time out of the ring and the fact that he didn't come back as a WW would indicate that he has trouble making the weight. Dealing with making the weight was also difficult for the Mosley fight. The evidence points to a Margarito who is approaching his mid-30's as having grown into a JMW. Making him come in at 150 was to make him come as close to a weight that he has difficulty making as possible. 150 is closer to WW than JMW. It is not as though the catchweight demands from the Pac camp are anything new.

If CW's are not significant then why does Pac continually demand them? Because they obviously do make a difference. However, I really don't understand why Pac should need to do this as his skill set is always superior to his opponents. It's like having a race with a one legged man and saying you won't race unless he cuts the other leg off too. What's the point? You can beat him just fine with one leg.

Is twice out of 57 fights continually demanding really?

The only catchweight fights were after he had already climbed 10 divisions and annihilated everybody.

After having the catchweight fight with Cotto he beat Clottey at the full weight limit. The catchweight against Cotto was because he was testing the water against a bigger man. He saw that he could cope, and thus against Clottey, no catchweight. Same outcome though, Clottey was dominated.

Manny won't be having any more catchweights at welterweight, he's comfortable in the division now.

The Margarito fight was totally fair. If you think Margarito was struggling to make 147 then you should be pleased that Manny allowed him to come in 3lbs heavier. He wasn't struggling to make 147 though anway. He moved up to the light middle division in the past to fight Daniel Santos. He lost and scurried back down again tail between his legs. Depending on what fights he can get it wouldnt surprise me if he went all the way back down to 147 again in future either.

Still, if Manny wanted to fight at WW or JMW then he should just make a fight for those weights. There is no good reason not to, unless it is to try and weaken your opponent and take them out of a weight class that they are accustomed to. And don't forget them saying they would only fight Mosley at 142. As if Mosley could ever make that weight. It's insane.

I too hope we don't see anymore CW's. Pac should settle at WW or move back down to JWW. What next Tim Bradley at 144 pounds? Just go down to JWW and be done with it. No more catchweights!

[Kev]

Margarito is a career WW, but he has fought at JMW in the past and since coming back has fought as a JMW. He had a long time out of the ring and the fact that he didn't come back as a WW would indicate that he has trouble making the weight. Dealing with making the weight was also difficult for the Mosley fight. The evidence points to a Margarito who is approaching his mid-30's as having grown into a JMW. Making him come in at 150 was to make him come as close to a weight that he has difficulty making as possible. 150 is closer to WW than JMW. It is not as though the catchweight demands from the Pac camp are anything new.

If CW's are not significant then why does Pac continually demand them? Because they obviously do make a difference. However, I really don't understand why Pac should need to do this as his skill set is always superior to his opponents. It's like having a race with a one legged man and saying you won't race unless he cuts the other leg off too. What's the point? You can beat him just fine with one leg.

Is twice out of 57 fights continually demanding really?

The only catchweight fights were after he had already climbed 10 divisions and annihilated everybody.

After having the catchweight fight with Cotto he beat Clottey at the full weight limit. The catchweight against Cotto was because he was testing the water against a bigger man. He saw that he could cope, and thus against Clottey, no catchweight. Same outcome though, Clottey was dominated.

Manny won't be having any more catchweights at welterweight, he's comfortable in the division now.

The Margarito fight was totally fair. If you think Margarito was struggling to make 147 then you should be pleased that Manny allowed him to come in 3lbs heavier. He wasn't struggling to make 147 though anway. He moved up to the light middle division in the past to fight Daniel Santos. He lost and scurried back down again tail between his legs. Depending on what fights he can get it wouldnt surprise me if he went all the way back down to 147 again in future either.

Still, if Manny wanted to fight at WW or JMW then he should just make a fight for those weights. There is no good reason not to, unless it is to try and weaken your opponent and take them out of a weight class that they are accustomed to. And don't forget them saying they would only fight Mosley at 142. As if Mosley could ever make that weight. It's insane.

I too hope we don't see anymore CW's. Pac should settle at WW or move back down to JWW. What next Tim Bradley at 144 pounds? Just go down to JWW and be done with it. No more catchweights!

You've been reading too many internet forums Miles! If Manny and Mosley fight it will be at full 147 no excuses. People make up most of their objections.