Do you think Pac is on Peds?

[Howlin Mad Missy]

regardless of whether he is using or not and natural ability aside, as Miles has stated it is highly unusual for any athlete to move up in weight and keep the same speed - if not more so AND increase their power. It just doesn't happen.

Actually in boxing there are several historical examples. Jimmy McLarnin started at 112 and won the 147 crown with a KO1. Sam Langfrod began at 135 and KO'd HOF heavyweights. Mickey Walker began at lightweight and KO'd ranked heavies. George Carpentier fought in every division that existed.

It is rare, not unprecedented.

who?

[marbleheadmaui]

regardless of whether he is using or not and natural ability aside, as Miles has stated it is highly unusual for any athlete to move up in weight and keep the same speed - if not more so AND increase their power. It just doesn't happen.

Actually in boxing there are several historical examples. Jimmy McLarnin started at 112 and won the 147 crown with a KO1. Sam Langfrod began at 135 and KO'd HOF heavyweights. Mickey Walker began at lightweight and KO'd ranked heavies. George Carpentier fought in every division that existed.

It is rare, not unprecedented.

who?

LOL, damn younguns don't know their history

McLarnin is a HOFer originally from Belfast. A legendary puncher from the 1930's. Langford is one of the greatest fighters of all time. A top ten guy. Over 200 wins including a dozen over HOFers. Fought from 1900-1920 or so. Best fighter never to get a title crack. Mickey Walker was the undisputed 147 and 160 king of the 1920's and 1930's. A top 20 guy all time. Carpentier is a Frenchman who once challenged Demspey for the heavyweight crown after WWI. The Message our navy sent to French ships at sea? "Your Frog flattened in fourth." Undisputed 175 king and HOFer.

What is important about these guys and this issue is steroids weren't even invented until the mid-late 1930's so this isn't evidence, it is proof what Manny has done is possible clean.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Kinda fucked that the yes option means "you've have always been anti-pacman"... that's bullshit. The behavior can make one suspicious but that doesn't mean one is anti...

[Pavlik]

never

1. pac is a genuinely good man.
2. steroids/hgh should at least manifest itself in increase in muscle mass/density to improve power, pacquiao over the years has not bulked up.
3. this slandering is brought upon by envy.

[Althugz]

never

1. pac is a genuinely good man.
2. steroids/hgh should at least manifest itself in increase in muscle mass/density to improve power, pacquiao over the years has not bulked up.
3. this slandering is brought upon by envy.

I'm not saying he is or isn't using but those are three totally baseless and therefore useless arguments.

[CFH]

They are ALL on performance-enhancing drugs. Martinez, Mayweather, Pacquaio, Marquez, Rocky fucking Juarez, all of them. IMO, to think otherwise is just naive. Boxing is still the shadiest sport in the western world.

[Fenster]

They are ALL on performance-enhancing drugs. Martinez, Mayweather, Pacquaio, Marquez, Rocky fucking Juarez, all of them. IMO, to think otherwise is just naive. Boxing is still the shadiest sport in the western world.

Business.

It doesn't deserve to be called a sport.

[Addicted to_boxing]

never

1. pac is a genuinely good man.
2. steroids/hgh should at least manifest itself in increase in muscle mass/density to improve power, pacquiao over the years has not bulked up.
3. this slandering is brought upon by envy.

I'm not saying he is or isn't using but those are three totally baseless and therefore useless arguments.

Absolutely ...... "ENVY" That such a grand marketing farce can be created fighting hand picked named fighters coming off losses in @ 80 %. Of his fights after being discovered, fighting washed up fighters, catch weights, never fighting mobile hard hitting 1 punch ok type fighters, moving up weight classes and defying history and science, avoiding drug tests then demanding them after getting KTFO . The real story will play out in a theatre down the road .. The Great Top Rank Con Job".

[Julius Rain]

The poll speaks for itself dumb mofo will be dumb mofos

[jbp23]

There is absoulutely no evidence that points to it. Just beating fighters in higher weight classes is not evidence of PED use its evidence of a great fighter.

However there is evidence mounting against Marquez. Using a strength coach who has a history of peddling PEDS, using alias's, and making up ridiculous stories such as this one in yahoo sports:

"Heredia said he is going to meet with FDA special agent Jeff Novitzky, the man who broke the BALCO case, Thursday in Las Vegas and that Marquez will provide a blood and urine sample,Heredia portrayed it as evidence that he is cooperating and attempting to develop a program that could catch cheats in professional boxing. But Novitzky is a criminal investigator, not a man who would be setting testing protocols or even handling a blood or urine specimen."

[Howlin Mad Missy]

There is absoulutely no evidence that points to it. Just beating fighters in higher weight classes is not evidence of PED use its evidence of a great fighter.

However there is evidence mounting against Marquez. Using a strength coach who has a history of peddling PEDS, using alias's, and making up ridiculous stories such as this one in yahoo sports:

"Heredia said he is going to meet with FDA special agent Jeff Novitzky, the man who broke the BALCO case, Thursday in Las Vegas and that Marquez will provide a blood and urine sample,Heredia portrayed it as evidence that he is cooperating and attempting to develop a program that could catch cheats in professional boxing. But Novitzky is a criminal investigator, not a man who would be setting testing protocols or even handling a blood or urine specimen."

You're an idiot - Marquez said he'll take whatever test they want - So what you wrote right there is a LIE.

[Addicted to_boxing]

Why not just a simple yes? Rather than the stupid reference that in order to vote yes you admit that you are anti PAC. You may feel he used PEDS but love or respect the entertainment he has provided over the years. Get your lips off Pac's cock already!

[imp]

There is absoulutely no evidence that points to it. Just beating fighters in higher weight classes is not evidence of PED use its evidence of a great fighter.

However there is evidence mounting against Marquez. Using a strength coach who has a history of peddling PEDS, using alias's, and making up ridiculous stories such as this one in yahoo sports:

"Heredia said he is going to meet with FDA special agent Jeff Novitzky, the man who broke the BALCO case, Thursday in Las Vegas and that Marquez will provide a blood and urine sample,Heredia portrayed it as evidence that he is cooperating and attempting to develop a program that could catch cheats in professional boxing. But Novitzky is a criminal investigator, not a man who would be setting testing protocols or even handling a blood or urine specimen."

With 7 posts you are a very disgruntled pac fan that is obviously very upset about all of this.

Spread your negative words about marquez elsewhere.

[ElTerribleMorales]

ffs, only reason that Marquez ko'd Manny was cause of his "foot stomping technique" from the last fight, he must have done permanent damage fuckin ridiculous, Pacquiao probably forgot his lucky fuckin socks again, and just in case anyone is too dumb to see through it, it's called sarcasm, Marquez waxed that ass 3 fights before it, so not shocking that he won this one the way he did given how hyped up he was about it and how relatively dumb Pacquiao is for not learning from his mistakes, Pacquiao can keep his 2 fake W's and D, cause in reality the only win in this series that means a damn is this one, a KO of the year is greater than whatever amount of knockdowns that Manny scored prior to

[Beanflicker]

I wonder how the people who voted know would explain those infamous emails sent by Pac's camp to Mayweather's camp, asking what the penalty was if Pac tested positive and if Pac tested positive could it be kept a secret lol