Carnage on a Norweigan Island

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Yeah it would have been far better if a couple of hundred teenagers on a mile wide island were all packing shooters.

No way that's a recipe for utter carnage.

No, actually it isn't. If it were? The NRA Convention would have mass killings every year.

There are mass killings every year for people that own guns.

Yup. And for every one there are literally THOUSANDS of meetings among people carrying where there is no violence whatsoever.

Yup. You can't shoot someone if you don't have a gun.

LOL yeah and THAT'S why nobody ever kills with a knife or a rope or a club or their hands or a car or a fertilizer bomb etc.

The right answer is of course being able to meet such a threat with a gun. I have done so twice in my life.

I'll take my chances against a knife, rope, hands or club over a gun.

You've been in two gun fights? I love a good western. How'd it go?

Nope. Fights weren't necessary. I pumped the shotgun on one occasion and the guy who had broken into my house ran and on the second occasion I fired over the heads of three guys with bats. They chose not to proceed.

The point you are missing is if YOU have a gun? You needn't take any chance at all, or at least far less often.

Unless you are silly enough to think criminals/bad guys actually go unarmed because the law says they must.

I agree with you that the people using the weapon are far more dangerous than the actual weapon itself. However, the more readily available guns are the more chance of them falling into the wrong hands.

That's just common sense.

If I lived in America I would probably own a gun too.

Bad guys ALWAYS find ways to get guns. The most dangerous places in the US in terms of gun crime? Two of the most difficult places to own guns legally.

All gun control laws do is hamstring the law abiding. Bad guys don't worry much about the law...it's one of the things that makes them bad guys

Spot on Marble, I grew up in a rough neighborhood and unfortunately 2 of my VERY best friends were victims of gun violence and also countless associates I knew in passing were gunned down. That being said when I work in New York and I look at the news I am amazed at the # of home invasions that take place and I know for a fact the reason this does not happen in VA. My point being that not only can one observe for themselves but statistics show that the #1 deterrent for criminals are armed citizens.

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Spot on Marble, I grew up in a rough neighborhood and unfortunately 2 of my VERY best friends were victims of gun violence and also countless associates I knew in passing were gunned down. That being said when I work in New York and I look at the news I am amazed at the # of home invasions that take place and I know for a fact the reason this does not happen in VA. My point being that not only can one observe for themselves but statistics show that the #1 deterrent for criminals are armed citizens.

My whole family is from Virginia. I was there last summer, it's so much different then here in California. People here will fuck with you for absolutely no reason because if you're a criminal its a better chance you have a gun and the other guy doesn't BY A LOT because our gun laws are so out of whack. In Virginia we had kind of a dicey situation in Portsmouth in a gas station parking lot and all it took was my cousins announcing they were "holding" for things to calm down. It's a big ease on the mind to have one especially with that type of tension around.