Why people won't hate on Miguel Cotto for fighting Manny Pacquiao

[AdamGB]

Despite the size disparity people will be perfectly fine with this fight because
1) Pacquiao fans have made people hate him.
2) Cotto isn't Mayweather.

I love the hypocritical nature of boxing.

1. No, it's not people hating PAC because of his fans (actually PAC fans are people who loves to have fun all the time).

No but people do want to see Pac lose and it's not because of Pac... it's because of people such as yourself.

[generalbulldog]

I forgot to add, the reason why no one will hate on Cotto is because the guy has been a warrior. He fights anyone out there in the most talented division. I can't say the same for Floyd, while Manny will fight anyone out there he's now proposing catch weights.

Not to mentioned Cotto took a beating in the 8-11 rounds of the Margarito fight which many people have noticed Margarito all of a sudden seems to be punching harder. The theory was that the hand wraps had started to harden. Cotto is a warrior fighting someone that had plaster of paris handwraps agaisnt him.

And of course I'll admit it, I want to see Pacman take a savage beating, I'm pretty sure most of the boxing fans wants to see it and when it happens most of the boxing fans will be rejoicing. Not because I don't like Pacman or most boxing fans don't like him, it's just that the Pacman fans are the least knowlegeable about the sport and just a bunch of bandwagoners, racists, idiots, nationalists, etc. They really make Pacman fans look bad, hence why everyone now is against Pacman.

[XaduBoxer]

Despite the size disparity people will be perfectly fine with this fight because
1) Pacquiao fans have made people hate him.
2) Cotto isn't Mayweather.

I love the hypocritical nature of boxing.

1. No, it's not people hating PAC because of his fans (actually PAC fans are people who loves to have fun all the time).

No but people do want to see Pac lose and it's not because of Pac... it's because of people such as yourself.

Normal people don't wanna see PAC and/or Cotto lose coz they're both warriors... Irrational people tho wants PAC to lose because of his fans?? Totally nonsense reasoning...
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[AdamGB]

Who's talking about wanting to see Cotto lose?

Now one wants to actually see Pac himself lose, they just want it to happen because his retarded minions need a good slap across the face which is exactly what it would be if he lost.

[terrorsid]

Its not hating its just that when mayweather fights people you already know he's gonna win cause he goes for money fights and not high risk fights. I've been dying to see mayweather fight a Mosley or Cotto or williams. And the reason i call those names out because these guys are in his weight class who are dangerous and deserving. How is it that he hasn't fought these people money? well what happened to having balls and taking dangerous fights Pacquiao is moving up showing balls making this cotto fight moving up. Mayweather returning having people move up in 2 weight classes likes its no good fights at welter... what would be the difference in fight cotto mosley or wililiams when it comes 2 pound 4 pound I dont understand and Mayweather fans wanna help me understand??

[mad_takamura]

Despite the size disparity people will be perfectly fine with this fight because
1) Pacquiao fans have made people hate him.
2) Cotto isn't Mayweather.

I love the hypocritical nature of boxing.

why hate cotto? imo i think pac can beat cotto even on 147 so it ain't a debate about mismatches either. cotto is'nt the same after that margo fight (that jennings fight don't mean a thing) so that adds to my point.
him and pac in the ring can be equated as: exciting fighter + exciting fighter = an exciting fight. plus what pac did against hatton and hoya made people respect him: he is really a one in a million guy that can jump off weights and beat the best guy in there. imo the only two guys that can post a challenge for him is pbf and jmm (the latter being pac's kryptonite.)

[Mr140]

Teath he was the legit champ yet when he comes back has no thought i defending or trying beat out the top guys thats why people are on him. As for Oscar he is a cash cow only reason he fought him nothing else. Teah say what you want but if he does not face top ww then he is going to get crap about it he has all the power in world to make the fights we while see i guess hes got alot of skills but his resume could be better and i hope he does alot of good fights to happen.

[Bx730NY]

Despite the size disparity people will be perfectly fine with this fight because
1) Pacquiao fans have made people hate him.
2) Cotto isn't Mayweather.

I love the hypocritical nature of boxing.

Well there is a big difference if you are talking about a possible Cotto vs Pac fight and floyd vs Marquez.

1)Pac has looked just as strong if not stronger than most his opponents since moving up from 130 while Marquez was being manhandled at 135 by Juan Diaz until he outsmarted him.

2)Pac has great speed that up to this point seems unrivaled. Marquez although a great boxer in his own right doesn't have that equalizer at higher weights.

3)Pac looks comfortable at around 140 and i don't see Marquez beating a top 10 Jr welter.

Good enough?

[SigmaMu]

Despite the size disparity people will be perfectly fine with this fight because
1) Pacquiao fans have made people hate him.
2) Cotto isn't Mayweather.

I love the hypocritical nature of boxing.

It's not that we as fans are fine with this but the circumstances as of late, have made us sort of immune to this, and Floyd was the one who started this yo-yo and then Pac follows suit.

When Floyd forced Hatton to move up, I knew Hatton would not win,
When Manny moved up to fight Hatton at 140, I know Hatton was going to get stratched, I said 5th round knock out btw. Floyd also moved up to 154 and just bored us with a snoozer. ODLH moves down to fight Manny and I knew ODLH was going to get owned.

Suddenly we have Floyd returning and forcing a guy to practicly move up two weight divisions, two of which he has never faught in ever.

But the trend seems to continue, we all got used to the idea of PBF vs JMM but no one wants to pay to see it

Now, Manny should move up to 147 or call Cotto down to 140. Manny has shown he is perfectly capeable of handling himself in either division. There is nothing to do at 140, how many times can top tier fighters go thru Malignaggi? lol Paulie is not even good.

I seriously believe that Manny can handle his own at 147 but he should go after the baby of the bunch and this being Berto if Berto has the heart and then Manny should explore his options. Cotto looks a bit shot to some, Mosley is old and getting older, so Manny, IMO has a great chance.

I have no idea what is going on with these so called negotiations between Arum, Team Cotto and Team Pacquiao. I am confused and I have stopped reading on the subject. I will just wait until we hear something affirmative on the matter.

Cotto at 140 gets startched by Manny,
Mosley? I don't know
Cotto at 147 against Manny would be a good fight.
Cotto does not do very well against SouthPaws and he also struggles against smaller dudes who move around a lot. (Tony was not small) I wont even get into this as their are too many things to argue and it will be kicking a dead horse to some. Cotto lost to Margarina and that was that.

Right now, we don't have much going on in the sport, so I hope someone does something because this is getting frustrating.

We should have a boxing battle royal, for charity even.

[fan johnny]

Hitler hated Pacquiao

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVBwu...e=channel_page

[belakbox]

SigmaMu. Who is your pick between Pac and Cotto at 142, 144 and 147? I list a few because I don't what they're going to fight at. Just curious, since you were able to get all of the other picks right.

[SigmaMu]

SigmaMu. Who is your pick between Pac and Cotto at 142, 144 and 147? I list a few because I don't what they're going to fight at. Just curious, since you were able to get all of the other picks right.

Below 147, I will take Manny.

At 147, I will really have to sit down and consider it.

Like I do at the race track, I have to take a few things into consideration. Where, who, what why and how.
How is training camp? Who will be the ref, where will they fight, what gloves, who will be the judges, what ring size, how is the cut coming along, any new distractions? A lot goes into this, so I am not just going to go on blind nuthugging when I make this pick.

Even at 147 Manny is solid. I am just going by both fighters last performances. But something tells me Manny could pull this thing off. I am not really sure yet, I am going to wait for the dust to settle, it is too early to make a prediction for me just yet. I will get back to you on this one

[TitoFan]

Been away for awhile, but now I'm enjoying reading this and other interesting threads. Too bad I missed the post Cotto-Clottey fight forum discussions.

Anyway, here's how I see the Cotto-Pacquiao fight:

First off, I like Pacquiao as a fighter, regardless of how fanatical his fans can sometimes get. So I can try to be somewhat objective. ("Somewhat", because I'm a huge Cotto fan).



First of all, people that are going by Pac's destruction of Hatton in two rounds, to say that he'd do something similar to Cotto... I just have three words to say: Hatton is no Cotto. Sorry, Hatton fans, but I had been saying it all along. No way was Hatton fighting for #1 p4p, no matter WHAT Hatton was saying about it. He got exposed, and that's all there is to it.

Also, that fight was at 140. This one would be at 147, or some catchweight slightly below it. Big difference there. Yes, Pac destroyed De La Hoya at 147... but Oscar was shot, a shell of his former self.

Argument # 2: "Cotto is too slow for Pacquiao." I only got one word for THAT argument... Shane Mosley (well... two words). People conveniently forget how Cotto expertly out-jabbed and out-boxed the great Mosley. Mosley was washed-up, you say? Well... ask Margarito just how washed-up Mosley is.

Will it be an easy fight for Cotto? Of course not... it would be absurd to claim that. Pacquiao is the consensus # 1 p4p for good reason. But to dismiss Cotto altogether would be foolish too. He's proven his critics wrong time and time again. AND... he's the consumate ring warrior.

Well... those are my

[SweetPea]

Argument # 2: "Cotto is too slow for Pacquiao." I only got one word for THAT argument... Shane Mosley (well... two words). People conveniently forget how Cotto expertly out-jabbed and out-boxed the great Mosley. Mosley was washed-up, you say? Well... ask Margarito just how washed-up Mosley is.

I thought Cotto's handspeed looked noticeably slower against Clottey than it was against Mosley. His reflexes didn't seem to be quite the same.

That being said, I do agree that this is a very, very tough fight for Pacquiao.

[TitoFan]

Argument # 2: "Cotto is too slow for Pacquiao." I only got one word for THAT argument... Shane Mosley (well... two words). People conveniently forget how Cotto expertly out-jabbed and out-boxed the great Mosley. Mosley was washed-up, you say? Well... ask Margarito just how washed-up Mosley is.

I thought Cotto's handspeed looked noticeably slower against Clottey than it was against Mosley. His reflexes didn't seem to be quite the same.

That being said, I do agree that this is a very, very tough fight for Pacquiao.

You know... I noticed that too, SweetPea. I don't know whether Miguel just adjusts his fighting style (including handspeed) to suit his opponent, or whether it's something with the training or whatnot. Whatever's the case, I hope he realizes that his handspeed's going to be key for a fight against Pacquaio.