Clottey v. Pacquiao

[15rounder]

Pacman beat Marquez respectably...and by that I mean coming at the weight he agreed upon, and having himself weighed just before the fight. Not coming in overweight so he could have the advantage, and then keeping pre fight weight a secret before the fight. Pac-man beats Clottey hands down. Clottey would sit there and let Pac-man whale on him and 1 or 6 of those punches is gonna get through. I hope pac-man puts in the contract for his fight with mayweather that floyd HAS to come in at the agreed upon weight, no excuses, no acceptions. What floyd did by not making weight in that last fight was very disrespectful to Marquez

[Master]

No one wants to fight Clottey unless they really really have to and even Shane gave him a miss because he has no belt. Clottey is bigger but he is one paced and could be outboxed which is what Pac may do.

[hitmanhatton]

Pacman beat Marquez respectably...and by that I mean coming at the weight he agreed upon, and having himself weighed just before the fight. Not coming in overweight so he could have the advantage, and then keeping pre fight weight a secret before the fight. Pac-man beats Clottey hands down. Clottey would sit there and let Pac-man whale on him and 1 or 6 of those punches is gonna get through. I hope pac-man puts in the contract for his fight with mayweather that floyd HAS to come in at the agreed upon weight, no excuses, no acceptions. What floyd did by not making weight in that last fight was very disrespectful to Marquez

im pretty sure all fight contracts have the agreed weight in,floyd will make 147 he doesnt need to cheat it

if he did come in at 148,149 in theory pac should walk away from the fight... but will he after training camp and turn down a big pay day

[15rounder]

Granted...But i didn't think Floyd would cheat on the Marquez fight either, but essentially that is what he did. I don't know. Something is irking me about this. For some reason I don't think that fight is going to happen

[hitmanhatton]

Granted...But i didn't think Floyd would cheat on the Marquez fight either, but essentially that is what he did. I don't know. Something is irking me about this. For some reason I don't think that fight is going to happen

there was a bit of confusion about whether the fight was 144 or 147 lb beforehand.... maybe it was floyd making a point that he makes the rules... who knows, i definitley dont think he needed to do this to win

[15rounder]

On that point, I agree with you. He could have won that fight at 120 if he wanted to. I just get the feeling that when everything is said and done, Floyd is going to lay down too many rules, or something of that nature to tank this fight. Manny will fight under any circumstances in my opinion...he'll fight in a pile of shit if it's going to please the fans...I just have a feeling the mayweather camp is going to tank this somehow...I'm gonna start another thread...I want you to tell me what you think of it...it'll be up in a bit

[Zilla]

Too much is being made of Floyd's weight. That was one time and Floyd paid the price. The fact is he had been off a long time and while he stayed in shape, he probably wasn't watching his weight and had to come down by a significant amount. He was ONE pound off. Let's not act like the fight was decided by what Floyd WEIGHED.

[15rounder]

Correction...2 lbs. off (which does make a difference) and refused to be weighed on the unofficial scale. Who knows what he really weighed in that fight.

[hitmanhatton]

Correction...2 lbs. off (which does make a difference) and refused to be weighed on the unofficial scale. Who knows what he really weighed in that fight.

i dont think he would have been any lighter on the night of the fight if had weighed in at 144, i think it was more a principle thing of him showing who is boss

[Taeth]

I think mayweather not making 144 was bad more because of a respect thing in my mind, I really don't think he would have had any problem making 143 or 144 especially after seeing a bigger Miguel Cotto make 145 pretty easily. I also don't think Mayweather, who doesn't use size and strength, and a huge advantage because he came in at 146. He was too fast and too good for Marquez, and their styles much like Ward-Kessler just don't match up well for the orthodox boxer because their style isn't as good at a distance which is where Floyd kept the fight.

Clottey is pretty big, but he doesn't have a lot of power and he doesn't fight like Hatton on the inside, If he was taller I could see size being a problem for Manny, but Clottey's size in this fight just basically makes him a more durable fighter.

[salty trunks]

I see the jab as being the key weapon to beat Pac. Cotto had some success with it as did JMM so Clottey could very well give him hell with his jab and defense plus hes a good sized welter.

If he handles Floyd easily Ill be convinced he could handle any style.

[mad_takamura]

Clottey would be a very tough fight for Pacquiao.

I would actually pick Clottey to win. Clottey has a tight guard, can take a good punch when he has to and his offensive game is underated. Clottey has a solid jab, sneaky right hand and is good at putting punches together plus he is way natural bigger than Pacquiao.

Clottey's workrate could be his downfall because Pacquiao is an offensive manchine who can punch constantly for 12 rounds.

How many times do we have to heed the lessons of the past to look at the bright light?

Clottey is just the same as cotto. diaz. hatton. de la hoya. a guy who goes straight to his foes. That's what pac wants. and he's going to get brutalized by pac while pac is giving him different angles. A tight guard doe'snt mean a thing when your opponent is faster than you and has great footwork. Those 2 attributes pac has. and just like what you said clottey's work rate is his down fall and believe me it will. Pac would'nt give clottey a moment to breathe during his fast assault. And speed kills. most especially if:
1. the other guy is bigger therefore slower
2. the other guy doe'snt counter well in the league of jmm.pbf. and casa.
3. the other guy is not a slick. elusive fighter like pernell or pbf.

And that's the bottomline...

[TitoFan]

I thought DLH would be too big for Pac.
I thought Hatton would be too big for Pac.
I thought Cotto would be too big for Pac.

So.......

I think Clottey would be too big for Pac.

(Just kidding)

[salty trunks]

Clottey would be a very tough fight for Pacquiao.

I would actually pick Clottey to win. Clottey has a tight guard, can take a good punch when he has to and his offensive game is underated. Clottey has a solid jab, sneaky right hand and is good at putting punches together plus he is way natural bigger than Pacquiao.

Clottey's workrate could be his downfall because Pacquiao is an offensive manchine who can punch constantly for 12 rounds.

How many times do we have to heed the lessons of the past to look at the bright light?

Clottey is just the same as cotto. diaz. hatton. de la hoya. a guy who goes straight to his foes. That's what pac wants. and he's going to get brutalized by pac while pac is giving him different angles. A tight guard doe'snt mean a thing when your opponent is faster than you and has great footwork. Those 2 attributes pac has. and just like what you said clottey's work rate is his down fall and believe me it will. Pac would'nt give clottey a moment to breathe during his fast assault. And speed kills. most especially if:
1. the other guy is bigger therefore slower
2. the other guy doe'snt counter well in the league of jmm.pbf. and casa.
3. the other guy is not a slick. elusive fighter like pernell or pbf.

And that's the bottomline...

Yes but a good stiff jab can offset all that action, as we'll probably see in the Mayweather fight.

[milmascaras1]

i think clottey can definitely beat pacquiao but this fight will never happen because roach would never risk his cashcow pacquiao against a very dangerous fighter. besides, clottey wouldn't bring in the big bucks that pacquiao now demands. i also think clottey would walk through pacquiao's punches unlike cotto who's punch resistance isn't as good as clottey's. i also think clottey's superior jab would give pacquiao all kinds of problems and would have him dazed and confused. morales and marquez showed the way to beat pacquiao and that is by using a very good strong jab to keep pacquiao off balance. i think clottey wins this one in a war by late TKO.