Andre Ward DESERVED a Canelo fight!

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I find all this convoluted speculation amusing. It's always been clear to any knowledgeable boxing fan that Cotto was never a true middleweight. I personally never supported nor defended Cotto for his ventures into middleweight. I thought his physical peak was at 154, and that's that.

Using Cotto as a comparison to somehow defend Canelo and his shenanigans is beyond laughable. I don't recall Cotto ever asking anyone to drain himself 20 pounds in order to fight for some mythical title a couple of weight divisions higher than he (Cotto) was fit to fight.

My only contribution to this thread was to say that it's laughable to say Andre Ward "deserved" a Canelo fight, when in actuality Ward was twice the boxer Canelo will ever be. That Ward was frustrating in his inactivity, and didn't fight long enough to test himself against some real challenges out there... yeah. Which is why I've never been a huge Ward fan either.

That's all.

any knowledgeable boxing fan knows miguel won the middleweight title & any knowledgeable boxing fan should want a champion to fight their biggest threat & that's that

i am not using miguel as a comparison to canelo. i am highlighting that a real huge ggg fan would call out the guys who ducked him. miguel never offered to fight someone who weighed 32 pounds more than him in their previous fights & the alleged offer to badou still would have been within the cruiserweight limits as you very well know. miguel did however request catchweights when titles were on the line, forcing fighters to weigh less than the championship limit

you also contributed this

I've always been a huge GGG fan

which lead to this current discussion. the andre v canelo fight was never really even a thing as andre was weights above canelo at those times

that is all

You can mention catchweights all you want. Doesn't change the fact that Canelo wanting to drain Badou Jack for a cruiserweight title fight is one of the most chickenshit moves in boxing history.

But don't take my word for it. Read for yourself.

https://www.boxingscene.com/badou-ja...clause--175475

"Badou Jack: I Won't Be Facing Canelo Next; They Want Fight At 180, Plus Rehydration Clause"


Drain the guy 20 pounds... PLUS... a rehydration clause. And Ginger's got the nerve to call it a cruiserweight title fight. A title he would've never defended... because Ginger is all about the trinket.

Meanwhile, Badou himself told Ginger he should fight David Benavidez.


It's telling that you should continue to defend the chickenshit moves of the most coddled fighter in boxing history.

None of the other Mexican champions before or since have ever reached for trinkets just for the sake of the damn trinkets... all sportsmanship be damned.

You're just like the other casuals of today.

this is all only alleged by badou. have you got a copy of the official proposal? REALLY? You want to go there?


badou weighed 32 pounds more than canelo in their previous fights. i guess you'd be good with canelo v tank by that reasoning

at what weight division would a fight at 180 pounds be in titofan? doh. doesn't matter if canelo defended the title because he would have fought for it within the divisions weight limit

This is just one of those times where all there is to say is that... IF YOU'RE OK WITH THAT... there's nothing else to say.

just like miguel & sergio not fighting the biggest threat ggg as it was just not in the cards, sadly canelo v david b doesn't seem to be in the cards. david b has moved up & i think you said he's moved on, maybe you should do the same. david b's got a very good fight coming up next

emanuel navarrete says hi

you're trying to hide that you're one of the biggest casuals on here

At least try to be original.

It's clear you're at a loss for real defenses when you so shamelessly grasp at straws.

1. You revert to your modus operandi of asking for documented proof.

2. You're apparently ok with Ginger wanting to drain a cruiserweight to the bottom of the division, COMPLETE with rehydration clauses. Again... the most chickenshit move in the history of boxing.

3. You mask your fanboyism by regurgitating the labels that apply strictly to you.

Beyond sad... it's pathetic.

1, so only badou's word to go by then? nothing from canelo's side?

2, badou weighed 32 pounds more than canelo in their previous fights. the bottom of the division would be one seventy six. so you'd be okay with naoya fighting terence at jr middleweight yeh? that's the weight difference bub

3, it's clear that you are little more than a casual these days

"This is just one of those times where all there is to say is that... IF YOU'RE OK WITH THAT... there's nothing else to say."

where did i say i was okay with it? just stating facts that fighting at 180 is still within the cruiserweight limt. doh