Andre Ward DESERVED a Canelo fight!

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1, reported news from badou? no actual copy of the proposal from team canelo? didn't think so. i don't have beliefs. i either know something or i don't. convid is claimed to be the cause of illness. i'm asking for some proof that i can verify myself that shows this claim is true

2, you are right canelo is not a cruiserweight, he is not even a light heavyweight, that is why if there was a proposal to badou a catchweight & rehydration clause would have been a good starting point. in negotiations you don't start with your best offer. did badou counter with anything? how's his career been going since that offer? you're finally getting it, canelo is not a cruiserweight, just like naoya is not a jr middleweight & 32 pounds is a huge difference in weight between their last fights. but you rag on canelo & wanted him to fight at 200 pounds but wouldn't want naoya to fight terence at jr middle which is the same weight difference. double standards as usual from you

3, i don't drool over any fighters. i think i am fair in my approach to all fighters i post about. my bathroom? you're losing the plot now

what makes you a casual is your exaggerations & your inability to drop your bias. looking at the from page of this board the only thread you have started is about oscar collazo a fighter i introduced you to, your not even casual enough to carry my jock strap

[TitoFan]

but you rag on canelo & wanted him to fight at 200 pounds but wouldn't want naoya to fight terence at jr middle which is the same weight difference. double standards as usual from you

I'll dispense with your usual bullshit, because frankly it's not worth my time.

But I do need to address your serious lack of reading comprehension.

I don't want Ginger to fight Badou at ANY WEIGHT. Ginger is not a cruiserweight. Badou is not going to accommodate Ginger by draining himself 20 pounds, and then subjecting himself to rehydration clauses.

Capiche? Entiendes? Verstehen Sie mich?

Ginger is a coddled diva. Badou is a fighter.

I don't want Naoya to fight Crawford at ANY WEIGHT. You're the one that for some fukking reason keeps bringing up Naoya.

Naoya himself has never said anything about fighting Crawford.

Naoya is a fighter also... not a coddled, trinket-grabbing pussy like Ginger is.

Now, I realize you have comprehension issues.

But you should quit before your "below-zero" credibility continues sinking even lower than it already is.

[TitoFan]

But hey, listen. I've made my points.

It's not in your best interests to believe Ginger wanted to drain Badou to 180 and on top of that throw in rehydration clauses.

You don't see anything wrong with Ginger being a chickenshit, coddled, trinket-grabbing pussy.

Like a drowning man grabbing anything that floats by... you bring up Naoya, like if Inoue had actually ever verbalized wanting to drain a fighter several weight divisions above him... just so he could grab a meaningless trinket.

You take it personally that not everyone drools over Ginger like you do... and you shamelessly defend his chickenshit moves, even at the expense of what little (to no) credibility you've ever had.



But hey... you're gonna get the last word in, because that's what you do. Schoolyard style. In every fukking argument you've ever been in. Getting in the last word, or else hold your breath till you turn blue.

I don't want that on my conscience, so...

I hereby present you your Last Word 1st Place trophy.

Enjoy.

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you're the one who keeps bringing up the alleged proposal to badou. you are right canelo is not a cruiserweight, so if a proposal was made don't you think a catchweight would be reasonable? just like if naoya offered terence a fight, don't you think a catchweight would be reasonable? as i've suggested many times & you continue to ignore, badou could have made a counter offer maybe to meet in-between, he drops 16 pounds, canelo comes up 16 for a fight at 184. like i said in negotiations you don't lead with you're best offer. was canelo coddled when he fought floyd who was considered the best fighter in the world? make sure you comprehend here, i'm not asking if canelo deserved the fight, i'm asking if canelo risked losing to floyd? no one wants naoya to fight terence, you not comprehending. the weight difference of 32 pounds is the point. you call canelo a chickenshit for allegedly asking for a catchweight for a guy 32 pounds above him but must realize it would be ridiculous for naoya to fight terence who would be 32 pounds above him. again the 32 pounds is the point, not the fighters, try to keep up yeh

i think it's reasonable for a guy 32 pounds lighter to propose a catchweight & rehydration clause as a starting point

i don't see canelo as a chickenshit, coddled, trinket-grabbing pussy because he may have proposed a catchweight & rehydration clause as a starting point for a fight against a guy 32 pounds heavier than him

naoya & terence are not my point. the 32 pounds weight difference is, please try to keep up. it's not my fault 180 is still within the division limit

are talking for everyone again? i don't drool over canelo. i give reasonable explanations. not exaggeration like yourself.

you revert to you're usual "you're gonna get the last word in" tactic as some way to avoid a response. just answer this one question: was canelo coddled when he fought floyd who was considered the best fighter in the world? make sure you comprehend here, i'm not asking if canelo deserved the fight, i'm asking if canelo risked losing to floyd? to put it simply: did canelo risk taking a loss when he fought floyd?

[TitoFan]

you're the one who keeps bringing up the alleged proposal to badou.

That's because that's my original point. That Ginger trying to drain Badou for a bogus cruiserweight title fight was a chickenshit move. Yet you comically bring up an invented scenario of Naoya challenging Crawford as an asinine counterpoint... when it has absolutely ZILCH to do with my point... and Naoya has never even made such a challenge.

so if a proposal was made don't you think a catchweight would be reasonable? just like if naoya offered terence a fight, don't you think a catchweight would be reasonable? as i've suggested many times & you continue to ignore, badou could have made a counter offer maybe to meet in-between, he drops 16 pounds, canelo comes up 16 for a fight at 184. like i said in negotiations you don't lead with you're best offer.

Blah blah blah... Don't hurt yourself with all that twisting, reaching, and convoluting. Badou told Ginger he wasn't interested. End of story. Ginger ended up with pie in his face like the trinket-grabbing pussy chickenshit he is.
Naoya?? Leave the guy alone, for heaven's sake. He's a true warrior. Mowing down opposition as he gradually moves up in weight. Not reaching two or three divisions above, seeking to drain a champion to grab a trinket.

was canelo coddled when he fought floyd who was considered the best fighter in the world? , i'm not asking if canelo deserved the fight, i'm asking if canelo risked losing to floyd?

Yes. That's one of the two miscalculations Ginger has made in his career. One was Floyd... the other was Bivol. Yes... he risked losing to Floyd. Which he did, to the point not even his biased judges could give him the decision (although his mistress judge saw it as a draw). The rest of his opponents have been coldly calculated. Marinating... clause-making... cherry-picking... judge-buying... Ginger has taken very few REAL risks in his career. He thought he could beat Floyd. He was wrong.

i don't see canelo as a chickenshit, coddled, trinket-grabbing pussy because he may have proposed a catchweight & rehydration clause as a starting point for a fight against a guy 32 pounds heavier than him

Fair enough. You're a Ginger groupie. I do, however. Very much so.

just answer this one question: was canelo coddled when he fought floyd who was considered the best fighter in the world?, i'm not asking if canelo deserved the fight, i'm asking if canelo risked losing to floyd? to put it simply: did canelo risk taking a loss when he fought floyd?

See above.

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you're the one who keeps bringing up the alleged proposal to badou.

That's because that's my original point. That Ginger trying to drain Badou for a bogus cruiserweight title fight was a chickenshit move. Yet you comically bring up an invented scenario of Naoya challenging Crawford as an asinine counterpoint... when it has absolutely ZILCH to do with my point... and Naoya has never even made such a challenge.

so if a proposal was made don't you think a catchweight would be reasonable? just like if naoya offered terence a fight, don't you think a catchweight would be reasonable? as i've suggested many times & you continue to ignore, badou could have made a counter offer maybe to meet in-between, he drops 16 pounds, canelo comes up 16 for a fight at 184. like i said in negotiations you don't lead with you're best offer.

Blah blah blah... Don't hurt yourself with all that twisting, reaching, and convoluting. Badou told Ginger he wasn't interested. End of story. Ginger ended up with pie in his face like the trinket-grabbing pussy chickenshit he is.
Naoya?? Leave the guy alone, for heaven's sake. He's a true warrior. Mowing down opposition as he gradually moves up in weight. Not reaching two or three divisions above, seeking to drain a champion to grab a trinket.

was canelo coddled when he fought floyd who was considered the best fighter in the world? , i'm not asking if canelo deserved the fight, i'm asking if canelo risked losing to floyd?

Yes. That's one of the two miscalculations Ginger has made in his career. One was Floyd... the other was Bivol. Yes... he risked losing to Floyd. Which he did, to the point not even his biased judges could give him the decision (although his mistress judge saw it as a draw). The rest of his opponents have been coldly calculated. Marinating... clause-making... cherry-picking... judge-buying... Ginger has taken very few REAL risks in his career. He thought he could beat Floyd. He was wrong.

i don't see canelo as a chickenshit, coddled, trinket-grabbing pussy because he may have proposed a catchweight & rehydration clause as a starting point for a fight against a guy 32 pounds heavier than him

Fair enough. You're a Ginger groupie. I do, however. Very much so.

just answer this one question: was canelo coddled when he fought floyd who was considered the best fighter in the world?, i'm not asking if canelo deserved the fight, i'm asking if canelo risked losing to floyd? to put it simply: did canelo risk taking a loss when he fought floyd?

See above.

a 32 pound weight difference between their last fights is not an invention. it's the same weight difference that exists between naoya & terence. like i said it's not about the names, just using them to give you a visual of the weight difference. do you not think it's reasonable for a guy 32 pounds lighter to request a catchweight & rehydration clause if a fight between the two is being proposed?

so badou wasn't interested in negotiating? fair enough. canelo has gone on to fight several times while badou's in ring career has been what? seems like the only pie is on badou's face. 32 pound weight difference between their last fights

so canelo did risk losing by fighting floyd yeh? you've contradicted yourself by saying canelo was coddled. if a fighter takes a fight where he is at risking of losing he can't be coddled