Andre Ward DESERVED a Canelo fight!

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you're the one who keeps bringing up the alleged proposal to badou. you are right canelo is not a cruiserweight, so if a proposal was made don't you think a catchweight would be reasonable? just like if naoya offered terence a fight, don't you think a catchweight would be reasonable? as i've suggested many times & you continue to ignore, badou could have made a counter offer maybe to meet in-between, he drops 16 pounds, canelo comes up 16 for a fight at 184. like i said in negotiations you don't lead with you're best offer. was canelo coddled when he fought floyd who was considered the best fighter in the world? make sure you comprehend here, i'm not asking if canelo deserved the fight, i'm asking if canelo risked losing to floyd? no one wants naoya to fight terence, you not comprehending. the weight difference of 32 pounds is the point. you call canelo a chickenshit for allegedly asking for a catchweight for a guy 32 pounds above him but must realize it would be ridiculous for naoya to fight terence who would be 32 pounds above him. again the 32 pounds is the point, not the fighters, try to keep up yeh

i think it's reasonable for a guy 32 pounds lighter to propose a catchweight & rehydration clause as a starting point

i don't see canelo as a chickenshit, coddled, trinket-grabbing pussy because he may have proposed a catchweight & rehydration clause as a starting point for a fight against a guy 32 pounds heavier than him

naoya & terence are not my point. the 32 pounds weight difference is, please try to keep up. it's not my fault 180 is still within the division limit

are talking for everyone again? i don't drool over canelo. i give reasonable explanations. not exaggeration like yourself.

you revert to you're usual "you're gonna get the last word in" tactic as some way to avoid a response. just answer this one question: was canelo coddled when he fought floyd who was considered the best fighter in the world? make sure you comprehend here, i'm not asking if canelo deserved the fight, i'm asking if canelo risked losing to floyd? to put it simply: did canelo risk taking a loss when he fought floyd?

[TitoFan]

you're the one who keeps bringing up the alleged proposal to badou.

That's because that's my original point. That Ginger trying to drain Badou for a bogus cruiserweight title fight was a chickenshit move. Yet you comically bring up an invented scenario of Naoya challenging Crawford as an asinine counterpoint... when it has absolutely ZILCH to do with my point... and Naoya has never even made such a challenge.

so if a proposal was made don't you think a catchweight would be reasonable? just like if naoya offered terence a fight, don't you think a catchweight would be reasonable? as i've suggested many times & you continue to ignore, badou could have made a counter offer maybe to meet in-between, he drops 16 pounds, canelo comes up 16 for a fight at 184. like i said in negotiations you don't lead with you're best offer.

Blah blah blah... Don't hurt yourself with all that twisting, reaching, and convoluting. Badou told Ginger he wasn't interested. End of story. Ginger ended up with pie in his face like the trinket-grabbing pussy chickenshit he is.
Naoya?? Leave the guy alone, for heaven's sake. He's a true warrior. Mowing down opposition as he gradually moves up in weight. Not reaching two or three divisions above, seeking to drain a champion to grab a trinket.

was canelo coddled when he fought floyd who was considered the best fighter in the world? , i'm not asking if canelo deserved the fight, i'm asking if canelo risked losing to floyd?

Yes. That's one of the two miscalculations Ginger has made in his career. One was Floyd... the other was Bivol. Yes... he risked losing to Floyd. Which he did, to the point not even his biased judges could give him the decision (although his mistress judge saw it as a draw). The rest of his opponents have been coldly calculated. Marinating... clause-making... cherry-picking... judge-buying... Ginger has taken very few REAL risks in his career. He thought he could beat Floyd. He was wrong.

i don't see canelo as a chickenshit, coddled, trinket-grabbing pussy because he may have proposed a catchweight & rehydration clause as a starting point for a fight against a guy 32 pounds heavier than him

Fair enough. You're a Ginger groupie. I do, however. Very much so.

just answer this one question: was canelo coddled when he fought floyd who was considered the best fighter in the world?, i'm not asking if canelo deserved the fight, i'm asking if canelo risked losing to floyd? to put it simply: did canelo risk taking a loss when he fought floyd?

See above.

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you're the one who keeps bringing up the alleged proposal to badou.

That's because that's my original point. That Ginger trying to drain Badou for a bogus cruiserweight title fight was a chickenshit move. Yet you comically bring up an invented scenario of Naoya challenging Crawford as an asinine counterpoint... when it has absolutely ZILCH to do with my point... and Naoya has never even made such a challenge.

so if a proposal was made don't you think a catchweight would be reasonable? just like if naoya offered terence a fight, don't you think a catchweight would be reasonable? as i've suggested many times & you continue to ignore, badou could have made a counter offer maybe to meet in-between, he drops 16 pounds, canelo comes up 16 for a fight at 184. like i said in negotiations you don't lead with you're best offer.

Blah blah blah... Don't hurt yourself with all that twisting, reaching, and convoluting. Badou told Ginger he wasn't interested. End of story. Ginger ended up with pie in his face like the trinket-grabbing pussy chickenshit he is.
Naoya?? Leave the guy alone, for heaven's sake. He's a true warrior. Mowing down opposition as he gradually moves up in weight. Not reaching two or three divisions above, seeking to drain a champion to grab a trinket.

was canelo coddled when he fought floyd who was considered the best fighter in the world? , i'm not asking if canelo deserved the fight, i'm asking if canelo risked losing to floyd?

Yes. That's one of the two miscalculations Ginger has made in his career. One was Floyd... the other was Bivol. Yes... he risked losing to Floyd. Which he did, to the point not even his biased judges could give him the decision (although his mistress judge saw it as a draw). The rest of his opponents have been coldly calculated. Marinating... clause-making... cherry-picking... judge-buying... Ginger has taken very few REAL risks in his career. He thought he could beat Floyd. He was wrong.

i don't see canelo as a chickenshit, coddled, trinket-grabbing pussy because he may have proposed a catchweight & rehydration clause as a starting point for a fight against a guy 32 pounds heavier than him

Fair enough. You're a Ginger groupie. I do, however. Very much so.

just answer this one question: was canelo coddled when he fought floyd who was considered the best fighter in the world?, i'm not asking if canelo deserved the fight, i'm asking if canelo risked losing to floyd? to put it simply: did canelo risk taking a loss when he fought floyd?

See above.

a 32 pound weight difference between their last fights is not an invention. it's the same weight difference that exists between naoya & terence. like i said it's not about the names, just using them to give you a visual of the weight difference. do you not think it's reasonable for a guy 32 pounds lighter to request a catchweight & rehydration clause if a fight between the two is being proposed?

so badou wasn't interested in negotiating? fair enough. canelo has gone on to fight several times while badou's in ring career has been what? seems like the only pie is on badou's face. 32 pound weight difference between their last fights

so canelo did risk losing by fighting floyd yeh? you've contradicted yourself by saying canelo was coddled. if a fighter takes a fight where he is at risking of losing he can't be coddled