Andre Ward DESERVED a Canelo fight!

[Spicoli]

canelo stepped up in weight after becoming undisputed at super middle to fight arguably the best light heavyweight, that fight also came with the ggg fight in the contract. dmitry is a lighter fight than david b? at that time david b was bouncing back from being coke out & blowing weight to lose his title, twice. his bad decisions. if he had of stayed disciplined he would have still had a title when canelo moved back to super middle to unify. david b was fighting the anthony dirrell's & david lemieux's. canelo was challenging at long time light heavyweight champion. david b can't blame others for his bad decisions

so between serhiy dzinziruk to martin murray i guess sergio v ggg was just not in the cards is the excuse

you were the one saying that everything was gearing towards a miguel v canelo fight "hbo targeted" & "golovkin willfully accepted step aside money" & now trying to avoid that to say canelo was stalling out. canelo defended his jr middleweight belt against liam & within a year of that he fought ggg. canelo was still a jr middle until september twenty sixteen, fact

yes canelo had those catchweight fights but they were all his request. canelo fought ggg within a year of defending his jr middleweight belt, sergio & miguel chose to slow roll past ggg. that was their chosen path

Do you intentionally twist stuff or is it a factory default setting?
You referenced Canelo "took a lighter fight & was looking for the rematch with Dmitry" to which I replied ...Canelo took other lighter fight. As in Charlo or Ryder. So clearly I was not referencing Bivol in relation to Benavidez. Aaaa batta batta batta.

"At the time (when Canelo had fought at 175 and then back for Golovkin III) David b was bouncing back from coked out and blowing weight..." blah etc. Actually no. Benavidez was fully back and taking the wbc interim title the exact month that Canelo took his L to Bivol. The 4 month suspension he served was a full 3+ years prior. After Canelo won Golovkin III, Benavidez had just defeated Plant. Canelo then opted to take on Ryder...the other less threating and beatable interim champ...and blew off #1 Benavidez. Then Canelo takes things to another level of ridiculousness and convinces his gullible fanboys that fighting a Jr middleweight in Charlo was what needed to happen and again blew off #1 Benavidez. It had become obvious and clear to all that Canelo had zero intent of being a "champion fighting his number one threat" as you initially put it.

Your quote>"you were the one saying that everything was gearing towards a miguel v canelo fight "hbo targeted" & "golovkin willfully accepted step aside money" & now trying to avoid that to say canelo was stalling out. canelo defended his jr middleweight belt against liam & within a year of that he fought ggg. canelo was still a jr middle until september twenty sixteen, fact"

And then Canelo out divas Cotto. So what is it "I'm trying to avoid"? And yes, he was stalling out for just under 2 years until Golovkin. To the point of vacating the belt and avoiding the mandatory to buy more time . No step aside money needed, Canelo just said F that right now. Dipping his toe in having it both ways with Amir Khan and Smith ffs. Hardly building to a mega showdown right outa the gate. He was literally wearing a middleweight title and defended it. Shirly if 155 "ducker" Cotto is held to your hypothetical standards vs Golovkin and expected to be a "champion fighting his number one threat" right off, then 155 Canelo could muster up the same expectations as champ without delay. Truth is maybe Cotto and Canelo had far more in common than the fans would like to admit. Canelo should be sending him a Christmas card and forever grateful for that not really a middleweight/middleweight window that it would take him another 3 years to finally hang a legit defense W on.

[TitoFan]

Truth is maybe Cotto and Canelo had far more in common than the fans would like to admit.

Admittedly, I don't possess the ability to reconstruct some of this history like others on here.

But I'll take slight exception to this particular statement. An examination of Cotto's boxing career yields that the bulk of it was spent between the light welter, welter, and super welter divisions. Cotto's size was never suited for middle... so his three attempts at that weight were less significant in comparison. He fought a lesser version of Sergio Martinez, then fought Daniel Geale... and finally his fight against Canelo. His last two fights were at super welter. He was hardly the only boxer in history to try a weight he proved not suited for. To speak of a possible fight against middleweight great Golovkin... and then call it "ducking" when it never happened (not saying you said that)... is a ridiculous reach, as any knowledgeable boxing fan would know. I'm pretty sure Cotto never had any designs on fighting GGG. He knew his peak was at super welter.

Now let's discuss Canelo again. Pretty much the same height as Cotto... and also started pretty much at light welter and welter. (Although it's tough to ignore the parade of nondescript bums that filled out his first 20+ fights on his professional resume).

Let's stop here to make a point. Any comparison between Cotto and Canelo begin and end with the progression of their competition on their way up. ANY comparison. While Canelo fattened his early pro record with a parade of bums... Cotto followed the usual and traditional path of increasingly better opponents. Night and day.

Back to Canelo. Same height as Cotto... but carefully made his way into middle. Let it not be forgotten that he avoided Golovkin early on... saying he wasn't ready for the weight (that's where the term "marinating" was coined). Yet somehow found it suitable to jump to 164 to fight the mummy, JCC Jr. Four months later he fought GGG, and judges stole the fight from Golovkin.

No sooner was that over, than Canelo began his "hopscotching" career. Jumps up to 168 to pick off sick zebra Rocky Fielding. Then comes back to middle. Granted... his fight vs Jacobs was a rare legit victory. Then he LEAPS to light heavy to pick off the damaged and exposed Kovalev in a HUGELY questionable fight. Grabs a questionable, meaningless trinket. Why questionable? Because he scurried back down. His M.O. Settles at 168, where admittedly he's done his best work, thanks largely to a few accommodating, underachieving British opponents... who seem to lay down at Canelo's feet. Tries 175 once again... and gets embarrassed by Bivol. Even so, the judges did their very best to give Canelo the decision.

Then he drags the unfortunate Golovkin up to 168 for the very first time in his career. The 40-year old Golovkin, who everyone and their brother knows will NEVER get a decision against Canelo in Vegas.

All this... and I haven't even mentioned Canelo's attempts to fight Ilunga Makabu and later trying to fight Badou Jack for bogus cruiserweight titles. Not because Canelo wants to prove he's a legit cruiserweight champion... nor because he has any intentions of defending those titles should he win. But to collect yet another set of useless trinkets.

The more I write, the more miffed I become that Canelo can ever be compared with Cotto.

Nothing could be further from the truth. One is a dignified former champion. Who had his losses, but overall had a stellar career. The other is a coddled, manufactured, diva clown... whose latest chickenshit move has been to blatantly duck David Benavidez and be applauded for it.

[TIC]

Truth is maybe Cotto and Canelo had far more in common than the fans would like to admit.

Admittedly, I don't possess the ability to reconstruct some of this history like others on here.

But I'll take slight exception to this particular statement. An examination of Cotto's boxing career yields that the bulk of it was spent between the light welter, welter, and super welter divisions. Cotto's size was never suited for middle... so his three attempts at that weight were less significant in comparison. He fought a lesser version of Sergio Martinez, then fought Daniel Geale... and finally his fight against Canelo. His last two fights were at super welter. He was hardly the only boxer in history to try a weight he proved not suited for. To speak of a possible fight against middleweight great Golovkin... and then call it "ducking" when it never happened (not saying you said that)... is a ridiculous reach, as any knowledgeable boxing fan would know. I'm pretty sure Cotto never had any designs on fighting GGG. He knew his peak was at super welter.

Now let's discuss Canelo again. Pretty much the same height as Cotto... and also started pretty much at light welter and welter. (Although it's tough to ignore the parade of nondescript bums that filled out his first 20+ fights on his professional resume).

Let's stop here to make a point. Any comparison between Cotto and Canelo begin and end with the progression of their competition on their way up. ANY comparison. While Canelo fattened his early pro record with a parade of bums... Cotto followed the usual and traditional path of increasingly better opponents. Night and day.

Back to Canelo. Same height as Cotto... but carefully made his way into middle. Let it not be forgotten that he avoided Golovkin early on... saying he wasn't ready for the weight (that's where the term "marinating" was coined). Yet somehow found it suitable to jump to 164 to fight the mummy, JCC Jr. Four months later he fought GGG, and judges stole the fight from Golovkin.

No sooner was that over, than Canelo began his "hopscotching" career. Jumps up to 168 to pick off sick zebra Rocky Fielding. Then comes back to middle. Granted... his fight vs Jacobs was a rare legit victory. Then he LEAPS to light heavy to pick off the damaged and exposed Kovalev in a HUGELY questionable fight. Grabs a questionable, meaningless trinket. Why questionable? Because he scurried back down. His M.O. Settles at 168, where admittedly he's done his best work, thanks largely to a few accommodating, underachieving British opponents... who seem to lay down at Canelo's feet. Tries 175 once again... and gets embarrassed by Bivol. Even so, the judges did their very best to give Canelo the decision.

Then he drags the unfortunate Golovkin up to 168 for the very first time in his career. The 40-year old Golovkin, who everyone and their brother knows will NEVER get a decision against Canelo in Vegas.

All this... and I haven't even mentioned Canelo's attempts to fight Ilunga Makabu and later trying to fight Badou Jack for bogus cruiserweight titles. Not because Canelo wants to prove he's a legit cruiserweight champion... nor because he has any intentions of defending those titles should he win. But to collect yet another set of useless trinkets.

The more I write, the more miffed I become that Canelo can ever be compared with Cotto.

Nothing could be further from the truth. One is a dignified former champion. Who had his losses, but overall had a stellar career. The other is a coddled, manufactured, diva clown... whose latest chickenshit move has been to blatantly duck David Benavidez and be applauded for it.

canelo can never be compared to a quitter like miguel

[Beanz]

Truth is maybe Cotto and Canelo had far more in common than the fans would like to admit.

Admittedly, I don't possess the ability to reconstruct some of this history like others on here.

But I'll take slight exception to this particular statement. An examination of Cotto's boxing career yields that the bulk of it was spent between the light welter, welter, and super welter divisions. Cotto's size was never suited for middle... so his three attempts at that weight were less significant in comparison. He fought a lesser version of Sergio Martinez, then fought Daniel Geale... and finally his fight against Canelo. His last two fights were at super welter. He was hardly the only boxer in history to try a weight he proved not suited for. To speak of a possible fight against middleweight great Golovkin... and then call it "ducking" when it never happened (not saying you said that)... is a ridiculous reach, as any knowledgeable boxing fan would know. I'm pretty sure Cotto never had any designs on fighting GGG. He knew his peak was at super welter.

Now let's discuss Canelo again. Pretty much the same height as Cotto... and also started pretty much at light welter and welter. (Although it's tough to ignore the parade of nondescript bums that filled out his first 20+ fights on his professional resume).

Let's stop here to make a point. Any comparison between Cotto and Canelo begin and end with the progression of their competition on their way up. ANY comparison. While Canelo fattened his early pro record with a parade of bums... Cotto followed the usual and traditional path of increasingly better opponents. Night and day.

Back to Canelo. Same height as Cotto... but carefully made his way into middle. Let it not be forgotten that he avoided Golovkin early on... saying he wasn't ready for the weight (that's where the term "marinating" was coined). Yet somehow found it suitable to jump to 164 to fight the mummy, JCC Jr. Four months later he fought GGG, and judges stole the fight from Golovkin.

No sooner was that over, than Canelo began his "hopscotching" career. Jumps up to 168 to pick off sick zebra Rocky Fielding. Then comes back to middle. Granted... his fight vs Jacobs was a rare legit victory. Then he LEAPS to light heavy to pick off the damaged and exposed Kovalev in a HUGELY questionable fight. Grabs a questionable, meaningless trinket. Why questionable? Because he scurried back down. His M.O. Settles at 168, where admittedly he's done his best work, thanks largely to a few accommodating, underachieving British opponents... who seem to lay down at Canelo's feet. Tries 175 once again... and gets embarrassed by Bivol. Even so, the judges did their very best to give Canelo the decision.

Then he drags the unfortunate Golovkin up to 168 for the very first time in his career. The 40-year old Golovkin, who everyone and their brother knows will NEVER get a decision against Canelo in Vegas.

All this... and I haven't even mentioned Canelo's attempts to fight Ilunga Makabu and later trying to fight Badou Jack for bogus cruiserweight titles. Not because Canelo wants to prove he's a legit cruiserweight champion... nor because he has any intentions of defending those titles should he win. But to collect yet another set of useless trinkets.

The more I write, the more miffed I become that Canelo can ever be compared with Cotto.

Nothing could be further from the truth. One is a dignified former champion. Who had his losses, but overall had a stellar career. The other is a coddled, manufactured, diva clown... whose latest chickenshit move has been to blatantly duck David Benavidez and be applauded for it.

canelo can never be compared to a quitter like miguel

Cotto is a legend. You need to get his first name out of your dirty mouth and learn some respect for fighters.

[TIC]

Truth is maybe Cotto and Canelo had far more in common than the fans would like to admit.

Admittedly, I don't possess the ability to reconstruct some of this history like others on here.

But I'll take slight exception to this particular statement. An examination of Cotto's boxing career yields that the bulk of it was spent between the light welter, welter, and super welter divisions. Cotto's size was never suited for middle... so his three attempts at that weight were less significant in comparison. He fought a lesser version of Sergio Martinez, then fought Daniel Geale... and finally his fight against Canelo. His last two fights were at super welter. He was hardly the only boxer in history to try a weight he proved not suited for. To speak of a possible fight against middleweight great Golovkin... and then call it "ducking" when it never happened (not saying you said that)... is a ridiculous reach, as any knowledgeable boxing fan would know. I'm pretty sure Cotto never had any designs on fighting GGG. He knew his peak was at super welter.

Now let's discuss Canelo again. Pretty much the same height as Cotto... and also started pretty much at light welter and welter. (Although it's tough to ignore the parade of nondescript bums that filled out his first 20+ fights on his professional resume).

Let's stop here to make a point. Any comparison between Cotto and Canelo begin and end with the progression of their competition on their way up. ANY comparison. While Canelo fattened his early pro record with a parade of bums... Cotto followed the usual and traditional path of increasingly better opponents. Night and day.

Back to Canelo. Same height as Cotto... but carefully made his way into middle. Let it not be forgotten that he avoided Golovkin early on... saying he wasn't ready for the weight (that's where the term "marinating" was coined). Yet somehow found it suitable to jump to 164 to fight the mummy, JCC Jr. Four months later he fought GGG, and judges stole the fight from Golovkin.

No sooner was that over, than Canelo began his "hopscotching" career. Jumps up to 168 to pick off sick zebra Rocky Fielding. Then comes back to middle. Granted... his fight vs Jacobs was a rare legit victory. Then he LEAPS to light heavy to pick off the damaged and exposed Kovalev in a HUGELY questionable fight. Grabs a questionable, meaningless trinket. Why questionable? Because he scurried back down. His M.O. Settles at 168, where admittedly he's done his best work, thanks largely to a few accommodating, underachieving British opponents... who seem to lay down at Canelo's feet. Tries 175 once again... and gets embarrassed by Bivol. Even so, the judges did their very best to give Canelo the decision.

Then he drags the unfortunate Golovkin up to 168 for the very first time in his career. The 40-year old Golovkin, who everyone and their brother knows will NEVER get a decision against Canelo in Vegas.

All this... and I haven't even mentioned Canelo's attempts to fight Ilunga Makabu and later trying to fight Badou Jack for bogus cruiserweight titles. Not because Canelo wants to prove he's a legit cruiserweight champion... nor because he has any intentions of defending those titles should he win. But to collect yet another set of useless trinkets.

The more I write, the more miffed I become that Canelo can ever be compared with Cotto.

Nothing could be further from the truth. One is a dignified former champion. Who had his losses, but overall had a stellar career. The other is a coddled, manufactured, diva clown... whose latest chickenshit move has been to blatantly duck David Benavidez and be applauded for it.

canelo can never be compared to a quitter like miguel

Cotto is a legend. You need to get his first name out of your dirty mouth and learn some respect for fighters.

miguel had to create a fantasy excuse to try & hide the fact that he quit

[TitoFan]

Truth is maybe Cotto and Canelo had far more in common than the fans would like to admit.

Admittedly, I don't possess the ability to reconstruct some of this history like others on here.

But I'll take slight exception to this particular statement. An examination of Cotto's boxing career yields that the bulk of it was spent between the light welter, welter, and super welter divisions. Cotto's size was never suited for middle... so his three attempts at that weight were less significant in comparison. He fought a lesser version of Sergio Martinez, then fought Daniel Geale... and finally his fight against Canelo. His last two fights were at super welter. He was hardly the only boxer in history to try a weight he proved not suited for. To speak of a possible fight against middleweight great Golovkin... and then call it "ducking" when it never happened (not saying you said that)... is a ridiculous reach, as any knowledgeable boxing fan would know. I'm pretty sure Cotto never had any designs on fighting GGG. He knew his peak was at super welter.

Now let's discuss Canelo again. Pretty much the same height as Cotto... and also started pretty much at light welter and welter. (Although it's tough to ignore the parade of nondescript bums that filled out his first 20+ fights on his professional resume).

Let's stop here to make a point. Any comparison between Cotto and Canelo begin and end with the progression of their competition on their way up. ANY comparison. While Canelo fattened his early pro record with a parade of bums... Cotto followed the usual and traditional path of increasingly better opponents. Night and day.

Back to Canelo. Same height as Cotto... but carefully made his way into middle. Let it not be forgotten that he avoided Golovkin early on... saying he wasn't ready for the weight (that's where the term "marinating" was coined). Yet somehow found it suitable to jump to 164 to fight the mummy, JCC Jr. Four months later he fought GGG, and judges stole the fight from Golovkin.

No sooner was that over, than Canelo began his "hopscotching" career. Jumps up to 168 to pick off sick zebra Rocky Fielding. Then comes back to middle. Granted... his fight vs Jacobs was a rare legit victory. Then he LEAPS to light heavy to pick off the damaged and exposed Kovalev in a HUGELY questionable fight. Grabs a questionable, meaningless trinket. Why questionable? Because he scurried back down. His M.O. Settles at 168, where admittedly he's done his best work, thanks largely to a few accommodating, underachieving British opponents... who seem to lay down at Canelo's feet. Tries 175 once again... and gets embarrassed by Bivol. Even so, the judges did their very best to give Canelo the decision.

Then he drags the unfortunate Golovkin up to 168 for the very first time in his career. The 40-year old Golovkin, who everyone and their brother knows will NEVER get a decision against Canelo in Vegas.

All this... and I haven't even mentioned Canelo's attempts to fight Ilunga Makabu and later trying to fight Badou Jack for bogus cruiserweight titles. Not because Canelo wants to prove he's a legit cruiserweight champion... nor because he has any intentions of defending those titles should he win. But to collect yet another set of useless trinkets.

The more I write, the more miffed I become that Canelo can ever be compared with Cotto.

Nothing could be further from the truth. One is a dignified former champion. Who had his losses, but overall had a stellar career. The other is a coddled, manufactured, diva clown... whose latest chickenshit move has been to blatantly duck David Benavidez and be applauded for it.

canelo can never be compared to a quitter like miguel

A response befitting your lack of humanity and moral character.

[TIC]

Truth is maybe Cotto and Canelo had far more in common than the fans would like to admit.

Admittedly, I don't possess the ability to reconstruct some of this history like others on here.

But I'll take slight exception to this particular statement. An examination of Cotto's boxing career yields that the bulk of it was spent between the light welter, welter, and super welter divisions. Cotto's size was never suited for middle... so his three attempts at that weight were less significant in comparison. He fought a lesser version of Sergio Martinez, then fought Daniel Geale... and finally his fight against Canelo. His last two fights were at super welter. He was hardly the only boxer in history to try a weight he proved not suited for. To speak of a possible fight against middleweight great Golovkin... and then call it "ducking" when it never happened (not saying you said that)... is a ridiculous reach, as any knowledgeable boxing fan would know. I'm pretty sure Cotto never had any designs on fighting GGG. He knew his peak was at super welter.

Now let's discuss Canelo again. Pretty much the same height as Cotto... and also started pretty much at light welter and welter. (Although it's tough to ignore the parade of nondescript bums that filled out his first 20+ fights on his professional resume).

Let's stop here to make a point. Any comparison between Cotto and Canelo begin and end with the progression of their competition on their way up. ANY comparison. While Canelo fattened his early pro record with a parade of bums... Cotto followed the usual and traditional path of increasingly better opponents. Night and day.

Back to Canelo. Same height as Cotto... but carefully made his way into middle. Let it not be forgotten that he avoided Golovkin early on... saying he wasn't ready for the weight (that's where the term "marinating" was coined). Yet somehow found it suitable to jump to 164 to fight the mummy, JCC Jr. Four months later he fought GGG, and judges stole the fight from Golovkin.

No sooner was that over, than Canelo began his "hopscotching" career. Jumps up to 168 to pick off sick zebra Rocky Fielding. Then comes back to middle. Granted... his fight vs Jacobs was a rare legit victory. Then he LEAPS to light heavy to pick off the damaged and exposed Kovalev in a HUGELY questionable fight. Grabs a questionable, meaningless trinket. Why questionable? Because he scurried back down. His M.O. Settles at 168, where admittedly he's done his best work, thanks largely to a few accommodating, underachieving British opponents... who seem to lay down at Canelo's feet. Tries 175 once again... and gets embarrassed by Bivol. Even so, the judges did their very best to give Canelo the decision.

Then he drags the unfortunate Golovkin up to 168 for the very first time in his career. The 40-year old Golovkin, who everyone and their brother knows will NEVER get a decision against Canelo in Vegas.

All this... and I haven't even mentioned Canelo's attempts to fight Ilunga Makabu and later trying to fight Badou Jack for bogus cruiserweight titles. Not because Canelo wants to prove he's a legit cruiserweight champion... nor because he has any intentions of defending those titles should he win. But to collect yet another set of useless trinkets.

The more I write, the more miffed I become that Canelo can ever be compared with Cotto.

Nothing could be further from the truth. One is a dignified former champion. Who had his losses, but overall had a stellar career. The other is a coddled, manufactured, diva clown... whose latest chickenshit move has been to blatantly duck David Benavidez and be applauded for it.

canelo can never be compared to a quitter like miguel

A response befitting your lack of humanity and moral character.

it's a fact that miguel quit, sorry not sorry

[TIC]

canelo stepped up in weight after becoming undisputed at super middle to fight arguably the best light heavyweight, that fight also came with the ggg fight in the contract. dmitry is a lighter fight than david b? at that time david b was bouncing back from being coke out & blowing weight to lose his title, twice. his bad decisions. if he had of stayed disciplined he would have still had a title when canelo moved back to super middle to unify. david b was fighting the anthony dirrell's & david lemieux's. canelo was challenging at long time light heavyweight champion. david b can't blame others for his bad decisions

so between serhiy dzinziruk to martin murray i guess sergio v ggg was just not in the cards is the excuse

you were the one saying that everything was gearing towards a miguel v canelo fight "hbo targeted" & "golovkin willfully accepted step aside money" & now trying to avoid that to say canelo was stalling out. canelo defended his jr middleweight belt against liam & within a year of that he fought ggg. canelo was still a jr middle until september twenty sixteen, fact

yes canelo had those catchweight fights but they were all his request. canelo fought ggg within a year of defending his jr middleweight belt, sergio & miguel chose to slow roll past ggg. that was their chosen path

Do you intentionally twist stuff or is it a factory default setting?
You referenced Canelo "took a lighter fight & was looking for the rematch with Dmitry" to which I replied ...Canelo took other lighter fight. As in Charlo or Ryder. So clearly I was not referencing Bivol in relation to Benavidez. Aaaa batta batta batta.

"At the time (when Canelo had fought at 175 and then back for Golovkin III) David b was bouncing back from coked out and blowing weight..." blah etc. Actually no. Benavidez was fully back and taking the wbc interim title the exact month that Canelo took his L to Bivol. The 4 month suspension he served was a full 3+ years prior. After Canelo won Golovkin III, Benavidez had just defeated Plant. Canelo then opted to take on Ryder...the other less threating and beatable interim champ...and blew off #1 Benavidez. Then Canelo takes things to another level of ridiculousness and convinces his gullible fanboys that fighting a Jr middleweight in Charlo was what needed to happen and again blew off #1 Benavidez. It had become obvious and clear to all that Canelo had zero intent of being a "champion fighting his number one threat" as you initially put it.

Your quote>"you were the one saying that everything was gearing towards a miguel v canelo fight "hbo targeted" & "golovkin willfully accepted step aside money" & now trying to avoid that to say canelo was stalling out. canelo defended his jr middleweight belt against liam & within a year of that he fought ggg. canelo was still a jr middle until september twenty sixteen, fact"

And then Canelo out divas Cotto. So what is it "I'm trying to avoid"? And yes, he was stalling out for just under 2 years until Golovkin. To the point of vacating the belt and avoiding the mandatory to buy more time . No step aside money needed, Canelo just said F that right now. Dipping his toe in having it both ways with Amir Khan and Smith ffs. Hardly building to a mega showdown right outa the gate. He was literally wearing a middleweight title and defended it. Shirly if 155 "ducker" Cotto is held to your hypothetical standards vs Golovkin and expected to be a "champion fighting his number one threat" right off, then 155 Canelo could muster up the same expectations as champ without delay. Truth is maybe Cotto and Canelo had far more in common than the fans would like to admit. Canelo should be sending him a Christmas card and forever grateful for that not really a middleweight/middleweight window that it would take him another 3 years to finally hang a legit defense W on.

canelo took a light fight against john ryder after his surgery before pursuing the dmitry rematch, which dmitry turned down the offer. canelo was offering the rematch to dmitry. because the offer was turned down by dmitry for whatever reason jermell a fellow pbc guy like david b got the nod four months after the john ryder fight. the original target & offer was dmitry

actually yes. why was david b winning only the interim? oh that's right because his bad discipline lead to him losing his belt twice. his bad choices. david b could have held a belt when canelo moved back to super middle or david b could have been unifying with callum smith but he blew it

after the jermell fight, which i give a pass because it was put together after dmitry turned down the offer for a rematch, i agree with you that canelo should have been fighting his biggest threat, which in my opinion was david m

did miguel still hold a belt at jr middle? canelo defended that belt at that weight & within a year of that fight he fought ggg, fact