< David Haye vs. Monte Barrett > It's go time... Let's talk it out.

[Bomp]

Seems as though you are letting your emotions get the better of you. I have watched Hayes entire career as I purchased his career set have you? ok well anyway I know that he can stick to a game plan he allowed himself to be dragged into a brawl as he knew he would win. He would not take the same mentality into the ring with either Klitscho brother.

No I don't let my emotions get the better of me when assessing a fighter...I go by performances and what they are doing in the ring....You are using fanboy mentality....

You show your fanboy mentality by saying things such as "I have his career set do you?".....As if you are a kid showing off his new bike.....give it a break....If the guy allows someone like Barrett to make them fight his fight then someone the caliber of Vitaly would certainly have no problem....

But just to save you from any further headaches of trying to defend your fighter I will just put it straight..

Haye does not have the punching power to stop Vitaly...(neither does anyone else in the division).....He will not outbox Vitaly...He will not outslug Vitaly....He can not beat Vitaly simple as that

Oh please. I'm a grown man I'm not a 'fanboy' nor do I follow internet lingo; the purpose of me identifying that I have the David Haye box set was to let you know I have seen every single fight I have many other Box sets also not all of fighters I am a fan of.

Now having watched every fight boxers like Mormeck and Fragomeni (I'm not saying they are better than the Klitscho brothers) had a good enough amount of respect from Haye to ensure he sticks to his game plan until the knockout! My point was just because Haye didn't display that amount of respect here in one fight does not show his inability to stick to a game plan or be calm etc.

You have made an assessment of athletic ability based upon how many fights? where as I have made my assessment based on a career.

I've pretty much seen all his fights, and his beiggest deficiency (and still is) is his stamina. Fragommeni laid down one blue print on how to beat him and that was to pressurre him til he was uncomfortable, some of the bigger guys will be able to stand up to his shots until his engine fails.

He likes to fight in his comfort zone, and I think I heard a discussion between him and Booth between rounds about how many punches he threw as if they had set a limit.

He's an exciting fighter, and I hopie he keeps winning til he gets his shot as Haye-Klitchko could be a big event in Europe.

[piye]

No I don't let my emotions get the better of me when assessing a fighter...I go by performances and what they are doing in the ring....You are using fanboy mentality....

You show your fanboy mentality by saying things such as "I have his career set do you?".....As if you are a kid showing off his new bike.....give it a break....If the guy allows someone like Barrett to make them fight his fight then someone the caliber of Vitaly would certainly have no problem....

But just to save you from any further headaches of trying to defend your fighter I will just put it straight..

Haye does not have the punching power to stop Vitaly...(neither does anyone else in the division).....He will not outbox Vitaly...He will not outslug Vitaly....He can not beat Vitaly simple as that

Oh please. I'm a grown man I'm not a 'fanboy' nor do I follow internet lingo; the purpose of me identifying that I have the David Haye box set was to let you know I have seen every single fight I have many other Box sets also not all of fighters I am a fan of.

Now having watched every fight boxers like Mormeck and Fragomeni (I'm not saying they are better than the Klitscho brothers) had a good enough amount of respect from Haye to ensure he sticks to his game plan until the knockout! My point was just because Haye didn't display that amount of respect here in one fight does not show his inability to stick to a game plan or be calm etc.

You have made an assessment of athletic ability based upon how many fights? where as I have made my assessment based on a career.

I've pretty much seen all his fights, and his beiggest deficiency (and still is) is his stamina. Fragommeni laid down one blue print on how to beat him and that was to pressurre him til he was uncomfortable, some of the bigger guys will be able to stand up to his shots until his engine fails.

He likes to fight in his comfort zone, and I think I heard a discussion between him and Booth between rounds about how many punches he threw as if they had set a limit.

He's an exciting fighter, and I hopie he keeps winning til he gets his shot as Haye-Klitchko could be a big event in Europe.

I agree with what you have said here and you appear to have made a decision based upon what you have witnessed across multiple fights and not just one single fight.

[Fenster]

Booth has been counting his punches per round for a while now.. i think back to the Abdoul fight (schooling in public session).

I don't think his stamina is a big problem.. the majority of his fights wont last 6 rounds - win or lose.

I think Barrett (although possibly drunk) came to fight. And is a lot faster than many "better" heavyweights Haye might face.

[El Kabong]

Speed doesn't mean much without control and accuracy