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No i wouldn't Miguel Cotto is still very much the same fighter, but i think the excuses above are valied.

Because pretty much everyone agrees ODLH was a weight drained punchbag, and alot of fighters would of beaten that version of ODLH.

And i think everyone agrees Ricky Hatton hasn't been the same since Kostya Tszyu fight, and people have been saying that even before the Manny Pacquiao fight.

Carlos Quintana may not be as good as Manny Pacquiao, but he is a slick fighter with good movement. Yet Miguel Cotto soon caught up to him.

I haven't seen any performance from Manny Pacquiao that leads me to believe, he would stand a chance against Miguel Cotto or Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Pacster would have beat Hatton at any time of Hatton's career. Watch the Magee fight.

Oscar was a shriveled mess, yes, but that doesn't mean any fighter would have slaughtered him the way Pacster did.

You're the excuses king, ICB, don't try and make out you wont be making excuses.
Didn't i just say Manny Pacquiao would of beaten any version of Ricky Hatton ? but you can't just base that on one performance.

ODLH was rubbish in that fight any top 147 pound fighter, would of beaten ODLH like a red headed step child. ODLH hasn't fought at Welterweight since 2001 agaisnt Arturo Gatti, and the last time he was below 146 was in 1997 against Miguel Angel Gonzalez, if that isn't proof enough i don't know what is.

You know it and i know it, don't try and make out that Manny Pacquiao, is the only fighter that would of beaten a weight drained ODLH like that.

Because that is reaching just to try and prove your point, when the fact is ODLH was rubbish and he was rubbish in sparring aswell. Getting the crap knocked out of him by the smaller Victor Ortiz.

Im the king of excuses since when ? i give fighters credit but if there is circumstances surronding a certain fight. Then yes i will point it out like everyone else does on here.
Prove my point? I don't have to prove anything. You're the one claiming Pacster's wins are tainted.

For you to be right, you must PROVE any other top 147 fighter would have done as good a job as Pacster. Can you prove that? No you can't, because no other 147 fighter fought Oscar that night. So you're wrong. Fact.

You deal with suppostion, I deal with the facts.