Ortiz v Murray could be on the Khan v Maidana undercard!

[skel1983]

Eric why is he bothered if Ortiz beat Murray? You seem to have another agenda mate, you seem to pissed when a Brit fighter gets dismissed when being talked about at world level

read back through the thread dude, you said he would loose i said i thought he would win, and you got upset because i said you were wrong

you still seem upset that i think he could win

and all this about liking boxing for boxing, thats all very very nice, well done

Upset lol

Mate this is what this place is about opinions and debates, but when your arguement is as weak as yours, the debate like this thread has gone on and on that is all mate, nothing personal.

[erics44]

Eric why is he bothered if Ortiz beat Murray? You seem to have another agenda mate, you seem to pissed when a Brit fighter gets dismissed when being talked about at world level

read back through the thread dude, you said he would loose i said i thought he would win, and you got upset because i said you were wrong

you still seem upset that i think he could win

and all this about liking boxing for boxing, thats all very very nice, well done

Upset lol

Mate this is what this place is about opinions and debates, but when your arguement is as weak as yours, the debate like this thread has gone on and on that is all mate, nothing personal.

if you say you wasnt upset then you mustnt have been upset

"but when your arguement is as weak as yours" doesnt sound like someone who is happy with the way the conversation has gone

i think your argument is weak, think about that?

[JazMerkin]

Eric why is he bothered if Ortiz beat Murray? You seem to have another agenda mate, you seem to pissed when a Brit fighter gets dismissed when being talked about at world level

read back through the thread dude, you said he would loose i said i thought he would win, and you got upset because i said you were wrong

you still seem upset that i think he could win

and all this about liking boxing for boxing, thats all very very nice, well done

Upset lol

Mate this is what this place is about opinions and debates, but when your arguement is as weak as yours, the debate like this thread has gone on and on that is all mate, nothing personal.

if you say you wasnt upset then you mustnt have been upset

"but when your arguement is as weak as yours" doesnt sound like someone who is happy with the way the conversation has gone

i think your argument is weak, think about that?

Mate, I'm really not trying to take the piss, but how old are you?

This is how debates go. There's no malice in what me & Skel are saying, if anything seems a bit harsh, it's just us taking the piss a bit which we do on this forum. None of us get upset by any of this

[skel1983]

Eric why is he bothered if Ortiz beat Murray? You seem to have another agenda mate, you seem to pissed when a Brit fighter gets dismissed when being talked about at world level

read back through the thread dude, you said he would loose i said i thought he would win, and you got upset because i said you were wrong

you still seem upset that i think he could win

and all this about liking boxing for boxing, thats all very very nice, well done

Upset lol

Mate this is what this place is about opinions and debates, but when your arguement is as weak as yours, the debate like this thread has gone on and on that is all mate, nothing personal.

if you say you wasnt upset then you mustnt have been upset

"but when your arguement is as weak as yours" doesnt sound like someone who is happy with the way the conversation has gone

i think your argument is weak, think about that?

Well that is you fella, end of the day I have put across why I think he hasn't got a
chance until the last reply where you say:

"Murray is a very determind hard man, ortiz heart has been broken before, i think murray could do it again"

That is the first bit of hard info you have given, prior to that it was your great knowledge of Murray that set you apart from the rest of us but then the cracks of this knowledge stared to appear when you said he has never looked like loosing, when he has already had one gift in his career. Like I say I have met and spoke to John and his trainer Joe few times great guys so this anti Brit bollocks you seen to have your knickers in a twist with does not exist only in your mind.

[erics44]

Well that is you fella, end of the day I have put across why I think he hasn't got a
chance until the last reply where you say:

"Murray is a very determind hard man, ortiz heart has been broken before, i think murray could do it again"

That is the first bit of hard info you have given, prior to that it was your great knowledge of Murray that set you apart from the rest of us but then the cracks of this knowledge stared to appear when you said he has never looked like loosing, when he has already had one gift in his career. Like I say I have met and spoke to John and his trainer Joe few times great guys so this anti Brit bollocks you seen to have your knickers in a twist with does not exist only in your mind.

yep, thats my great knowledge of murray

and ive watched the fight and it wasnt a gift, wasnt a vintage performance but definately didnt deserve to loose

again dude, i think you are still a little upset because there is no give, against ortiz you say murray will loose and has no chance, i say murray could win and his biggest worry is early power,

dont forget we arent just talking about ortiz, it is your opinion that Murray doesnt have a chance at world level, not enough movement, not enough power, struggles with movement, etc

and whether you are friends with him or not, that doesnt mean your opinion of his chances can be taken as more valid than mine or anybody elses

My mate phil works in a large supermarket, doesnt mean i know more about stacking shelves than you

[skel1983]

Well that is you fella, end of the day I have put across why I think he hasn't got a
chance until the last reply where you say:

"Murray is a very determind hard man, ortiz heart has been broken before, i think murray could do it again"

That is the first bit of hard info you have given, prior to that it was your great knowledge of Murray that set you apart from the rest of us but then the cracks of this knowledge stared to appear when you said he has never looked like loosing, when he has already had one gift in his career. Like I say I have met and spoke to John and his trainer Joe few times great guys so this anti Brit bollocks you seen to have your knickers in a twist with does not exist only in your mind.

yep, thats my great knowledge of murray

and ive watched the fight and it wasnt a gift, wasnt a vintage performance but definately didnt deserve to loose

again dude, i think you are still a little upset because there is no give, against ortiz you say murray will loose and has no chance, i say murray could win and his biggest worry is early power,

dont forget we arent just talking about ortiz, it is your opinion that Murray doesnt have a chance at world level, not enough movement, not enough power, struggles with movement, etc

and whether you are friends with him or not, that doesnt mean your opinion of his chances can be taken as more valid than mine or anybody elses

My mate phil works in a large supermarket, doesnt mean i know more about stacking shelves than you

Do you just read little snippets off each post the digest them in your own little world? Where did I say my knowledge of Murray is superior to yours because I no him? My point and my reference to knowing Murray was the fact you seem to have a a little problem with people not bigging British fighters up because they are " British " so I made the point I know him I get on with him so if anything if I was bias I would be blowing smoke up his arse but quite the opposite, he is not world class at the end of the day and we will bump this thread when the day comes or if it comes when he steps up.

[erics44]

Well that is you fella, end of the day I have put across why I think he hasn't got a
chance until the last reply where you say:

"Murray is a very determind hard man, ortiz heart has been broken before, i think murray could do it again"

That is the first bit of hard info you have given, prior to that it was your great knowledge of Murray that set you apart from the rest of us but then the cracks of this knowledge stared to appear when you said he has never looked like loosing, when he has already had one gift in his career. Like I say I have met and spoke to John and his trainer Joe few times great guys so this anti Brit bollocks you seen to have your knickers in a twist with does not exist only in your mind.

yep, thats my great knowledge of murray

and ive watched the fight and it wasnt a gift, wasnt a vintage performance but definately didnt deserve to loose

again dude, i think you are still a little upset because there is no give, against ortiz you say murray will loose and has no chance, i say murray could win and his biggest worry is early power,

dont forget we arent just talking about ortiz, it is your opinion that Murray doesnt have a chance at world level, not enough movement, not enough power, struggles with movement, etc

and whether you are friends with him or not, that doesnt mean your opinion of his chances can be taken as more valid than mine or anybody elses

My mate phil works in a large supermarket, doesnt mean i know more about stacking shelves than you

Do you just read little snippets off each post the digest them in your own little world? Where did I say my knowledge of Murray is superior to yours because I no him? My point and my reference to knowing Murray was the fact you seem to have a a little problem with people not bigging British fighters up because they are " British " so I made the point I know him I get on with him so if anything if I was bias I would be blowing smoke up his arse but quite the opposite, he is not world class at the end of the day and we will bump this thread when the day comes or if it comes when he steps up.

nope, you keep saying my knowledge of murray is rubbish and you keep saying you know murray, it seemed like you were linking the two

as i have said from the start, i am looking forward to his step up and i think he has a very good chance of making it

and i'll be supporting him all the way

[skel1983]

Well that is you fella, end of the day I have put across why I think he hasn't got a
chance until the last reply where you say:

"Murray is a very determind hard man, ortiz heart has been broken before, i think murray could do it again"

That is the first bit of hard info you have given, prior to that it was your great knowledge of Murray that set you apart from the rest of us but then the cracks of this knowledge stared to appear when you said he has never looked like loosing, when he has already had one gift in his career. Like I say I have met and spoke to John and his trainer Joe few times great guys so this anti Brit bollocks you seen to have your knickers in a twist with does not exist only in your mind.

yep, thats my great knowledge of murray

and ive watched the fight and it wasnt a gift, wasnt a vintage performance but definately didnt deserve to loose

again dude, i think you are still a little upset because there is no give, against ortiz you say murray will loose and has no chance, i say murray could win and his biggest worry is early power,

dont forget we arent just talking about ortiz, it is your opinion that Murray doesnt have a chance at world level, not enough movement, not enough power, struggles with movement, etc

and whether you are friends with him or not, that doesnt mean your opinion of his chances can be taken as more valid than mine or anybody elses

My mate phil works in a large supermarket, doesnt mean i know more about stacking shelves than you

Do you just read little snippets off each post the digest them in your own little world? Where did I say my knowledge of Murray is superior to yours because I no him? My point and my reference to knowing Murray was the fact you seem to have a a little problem with people not bigging British fighters up because they are " British " so I made the point I know him I get on with him so if anything if I was bias I would be blowing smoke up his arse but quite the opposite, he is not world class at the end of the day and we will bump this thread when the day comes or if it comes when he steps up.

nope, you keep saying my knowledge of murray is rubbish and you keep saying you know murray, it seemed like you were linking the two

as i have said from the start, i am looking forward to his step up and i think he has a very good chance of making it

and i'll be supporting him all the way

I wasn't linking the two but come on you have to admit for a Murray fan your knowledge of his career is not the best.