Hornfinger
Right and so BACK TO THE ORIGONAL QUESTION OF THE TREAD which you are avoiding like the plague.
Did pacquiao beat his opponants on the sales?
The answer is... of course otherise he would have fought these guys at their most comfortable weight class.
Pac brings them down to a catch weight for a reason. To weaken them. THERE IS NO OTHER EXPLAINATION.
If he believed he could beat a 154 fighter he'd fight them at 154.
If he thought he could have beat cotto at 147 the fight would have been at 147.
If he thought he could beat ODH at 154 he would have fought at 154.
He didn't think he could win any of those fights at those weights. If he did he would have done them with out the catch weight. It's a no fucking brainer no matter how you try and rationalize it.
And finally mr dildo I take it you want to abolish all weight divisions and do avery fight at whatever the fighters argee.[/QUOTE]


But the 154 fighter did not fight at 154. He fought at 165. This is what Bilbo hs been saying about that 24 hour weight in. Those weren't the weight that they come in for the fight.

If Cotto thought that he could not beat Pacquiao at 145 then he would not have agreed to 145.

The ODLH fight should not even be debatable. Those were under Oscar's terms. And Manny had to go up 2 weight divisions!!!

And so what if Manny didn't think he could win those fights at those weights (and this is your opinion btw, unless you're going to tell us that you spoke to Manny), the thing is he won those fights at the weights that even his opponents didn't think are unreasonable for them to achieve without compromising their competitiveness.