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    Default Re: J.M. Marquez vs Mosely at 147

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Manny had to over-eat to make 144, so he doesn't have to be a full welterweight, they use this to hype his fights like he can barely even make weight that high, yet if he is asked to move down in weight its a stretch for him? How does that make sense? All of his fights at welterweight, the astounding hype about them is that he barely makes 144, and that he not a welterweight, but if you say "why not a fight at 140 or even 138" its a stretch too far and a disadvantage for Pacquiao? How is that? he can move down with no problem while not disadvantaging himself and if anything he'd be fighting people more his size instead of the 'more dangerous bigger guys' as they are hyped. He can obviously make that weight, to say that Marquez "has" to move up to get a fight with him otherwise he is at a disadvantage is basically like saying that being on even terms with Marquez is a disadvantage for him.

    THAT is not such a ridiculous notion, this is why he will not fight Marquez on even terms, because he is playing the same game other boxers are criticized for by wanting to make a fighter like Marquez come up to fight him instead of fighting him on even terms. If he is the "best" as people say he is for the love of challenge and number 1 p4p then shouldnt he be able to fight Marquez at any weight he can make without a disadvantage? You can't tell me Pacquiao can't make 138 or at LEAST 140 and be weight drained. it's just the simple fact that on even terms, Marquez is a bigger problem for Pacquiao and he doesn't want to take that risk given the position he's in and the demands he can make. That's just how it is. And he should be criticized like the rest of the boxers that have been in his position and been guilty of the same things.
    Did you not think that Manny having to over-eat to make 144 is just to hyped the fight as what you said? Manny hasn't weighted at 140 and below since his fight with Hatton on May 2009.

    Wasn't that what Pac had been doing, going up in weight to challenge heavier fighters rather than have them go down to his weight class? (I almost can hear someone again criticizing Manny for weight draining his opponent by asking him to loss 1 pound.) If Manny can do it and JMM is better than Manny, then he should be able to do it, too.

    It's not the end of th world for JMM. He will have a chance after Pacquiao-Mosley but he will be able to make his chance better by fighting a worthy opponent at 140.

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    Default Re: J.M. Marquez vs Mosely at 147

    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Manny had to over-eat to make 144, so he doesn't have to be a full welterweight, they use this to hype his fights like he can barely even make weight that high, yet if he is asked to move down in weight its a stretch for him? How does that make sense? All of his fights at welterweight, the astounding hype about them is that he barely makes 144, and that he not a welterweight, but if you say "why not a fight at 140 or even 138" its a stretch too far and a disadvantage for Pacquiao? How is that? he can move down with no problem while not disadvantaging himself and if anything he'd be fighting people more his size instead of the 'more dangerous bigger guys' as they are hyped. He can obviously make that weight, to say that Marquez "has" to move up to get a fight with him otherwise he is at a disadvantage is basically like saying that being on even terms with Marquez is a disadvantage for him.

    THAT is not such a ridiculous notion, this is why he will not fight Marquez on even terms, because he is playing the same game other boxers are criticized for by wanting to make a fighter like Marquez come up to fight him instead of fighting him on even terms. If he is the "best" as people say he is for the love of challenge and number 1 p4p then shouldnt he be able to fight Marquez at any weight he can make without a disadvantage? You can't tell me Pacquiao can't make 138 or at LEAST 140 and be weight drained. it's just the simple fact that on even terms, Marquez is a bigger problem for Pacquiao and he doesn't want to take that risk given the position he's in and the demands he can make. That's just how it is. And he should be criticized like the rest of the boxers that have been in his position and been guilty of the same things.
    Did you not think that Manny having to over-eat to make 144 is just to hyped the fight as what you said? Manny hasn't weighted at 140 and below since his fight with Hatton on May 2009.

    Wasn't that what Pac had been doing, going up in weight to challenge heavier fighters rather than have them go down to his weight class? (I almost can hear someone again criticizing Manny for weight draining his opponent by asking him to loss 1 pound.) If Manny can do it and JMM is better than Manny, then he should be able to do it, too.

    It's not the end of th world for JMM. He will have a chance after Pacquiao-Mosley but he will be able to make his chance better by fighting a worthy opponent at 140.
    ...and that's why JMM needs to prove he's a worthy 135+ fighter by fighting Khan or Berto. He doesn't need beat them. I just wanna see him to be atleast competitive against either of those guys. If he achieved that, imo he'll have the strongest case to fight Pac at 147 and ask whatever purse bid he wants. Wearing a t-shirt that says "I BEAT PACQUIAO TWICE" don't cut it.

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