Boxrec make JMM No1 Lightweight. Who agrees?

[rjj tszyu]

That right there is my argument Galaxy Pacquio DID beat the man only 6 months ago

That's right but at 130 & for the vacant Ring championship because they were rated at #1 & #2.

So how exactly does that make Pacquiao the champion at 135?

I'm not arguing that Pacquiao isn't arguably the better fighter but he ain't the champion! You can't rank #1 contender over the champion its just not logical!

I don't know if you follow rugby but over here in NZ its our national sport. Now South Africa are the world champions but the All Blacks are the best team in the world & have been considered the best for over a decade. But unfortunately no matter how much I dislike the fact the AB's have not been champs since '86!

Your argument falls short though here anyway Galaxy because the Ring belt isn't a real title either!

The Ring title is the equivilent of the All Blacks being considered the best team in the world, it's just a subjective ranking system it's not a real belt.

Katsidis said it best last year when he said he wanted Juan Diaz because he was the lightweight champ. When the interviewer said that Casamayor was the Ring champ Kats replied, 'yes but that's just a magazine'

In reality, and I keep going on about this, Marquez is merely the interim WBO champ whilst Paquaio holds the far more prestigious WBC belt.

Marquez may be the linear champ but in reality he doesn't even hold a real world title at 135.

So your comparison to the All Blacks actually works in reverse!

Casamayor was considered the liner champ, and Marquez bet him, but no title belt was on the line so in reality Marquez isn't even a world champ whereas Manny is the WBC lightweight champ.

In a perfect world the 3 major players (IBF, WBC and WBA) would all want their champions to fight each other so we could have a unified division. But wouldn't that leave a fight between Pac and Campbell and have absolutely nothing to do with Marquez?

So to me that would be slightly unfair. Casamayor didn't hold any titles due to his inactivity not because he was ever beaten. It kind of reminds me of when Kostya Tszyu was stripped by the WBA and WBC when he was injured. Luckily the IBF were quite sensible and left him their champ as he was clearly the man at 140lbs until Hatton beat him which made him the man. But now Hatton hasn't been beaten at 140 but only holds the IBO which doesn't mean shit to me but to me has got to be regarded as the MAN at 140. It's ironic that he's fighting for his own belt that he never lost next time out. Sorry for all this talk but it just annoys me the way the alphabets go about doing things nowadays.

I made this poll and voted NO, but now the more I have thought about it if I could vote again I would say YES because Marquez is the man who beat the man and anything that happened between Pac and JMM happened in another division. Pac must now beat Marquez at the division to become the man IMO!