Pacman vs JMM 11/5 2011 at.........145

[Gandalf]

My goodness.

He has agreed to 'come down' to 144 you say. That is not coming down, his own camp says he eats children to maintain his current bodyweight. The man could very easily make 140. The only way to equal things out is have both fighters compromise and settle with an equal day before weigh in as that is all we have, that weight would be 140.

All we have here is an unequal weigh in. Manny has been practicing this weight game with the big plodders for 2 years, Marquez hasn't. Okay, maybe they come in at similar weights, but one has been preparing for it for 2 years, the other has done it only once.

Manny has all the natural advantages. Manny IS the bigger and stronger fighter. Marquez is the far more intelligent, but that has been partly nullified with this CW nonsense.

What makes you think that Pacquiao can easily make 140? You are asking him to lose 5 lbs!!! This is the same 5 lbs that Oscar lose when he fought Manny and you described him as weight drained. Like what someone said, where is the consistency?

Oscar fought at 154 for nigh on a decade. Eventually he saw more opportunities by boiling down. He did so first with Forbes and looked crap. He further continued this by fighting Manny. That's weight drained.

Now Pac has fought at WW for about 2 years max. Are you telling me that he has the same issues that Oscar had? Oscar fought at 154 for years and eventually fought Manny at 147. And you are telling me that asking Manny who weighs in at 145 is unable to lose a few pounds? Plus who is telling us that Manny eats babies to maintain weight? His own team.

Who was asking for consistency? GB? I gave it to him, he was satisfied. Julius Rains? He is retarded, I laugh at him. Bilbo, sure he is worth a debate. But otherwise, you are talking crap.

Did you ever mention that Oscar will be weight drained BEFORE he fought Manny? Or did you just based that opinion after seeing how Manny dominated Oscar? If it had been more of a competitive fight because Manny did not carry his speed and power at that weight, would you still have thought that Oscar is weight drained?

Let's say Manny went down to 140 and was dominated by Juan Manuel. Would you say that Manny has been weight drained because he hasn't fought at that weight for some time? I don't think so.

Have I been spreading the Oscar weight drained argument? It was certainly a reason, but as I have highlighted it was not the sole reason for the win. It was about two fighters making a compromise and that is what all of my arguments are about. Compromises. One with too much power compromising with the other. With the new Manny fight there is NO compromise.

If Manny were to fight at 140, it would be called fair. Otherwise he is simply a fascist and his new job simply gave him the confidence to be so.