Boxrec make JMM No1 Lightweight. Who agrees?

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Hatton is the Lineal champ and has been number 1 in the division for 3 years. EVERYBODY knows Hatton is number 1 at Jr-welterweight, even the haters. He had to give up the IBF and WBA belts. He didn't lose them in the ring.

Right. So why is Casamayor different? He beat Diego Corrales to become lineal champ and hadn't lost until Marquez. Simple as. Like Hatton, Casa didn't need the shiny belts to PROVE he was the man.

Casamayor is different because many people considered him number 2 in the division behind Juan Diaz and when Campbell beat Diaz people thought he was behind Nate Campbell.

Nobody thought Witter or Paulie was above Hatton only Witter and Paulie themselves and we all know how both of them are up there own asses.

Hatton was the clear number 1 while Casamayor wasn't. Many people begged to differ at Joel.

When Ricky beat Kostya, MANY people considered him no.2 behind Floyd at 140. Even though Floyd was CLEARLY a better fighter than Ricky, Ricky was still THE MAN because he beat THE MAN. Simple as.

You see it is the same with Casa.

Casa was the man from when he beat Diego Corrales. Just because people rated Diaz a better fighter doesn't give him claim to the "man that beat the man" throne.

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Right. So why is Casamayor different? He beat Diego Corrales to become lineal champ and hadn't lost until Marquez. Simple as. Like Hatton, Casa didn't need the shiny belts to PROVE he was the man.

Casamayor is different because many people considered him number 2 in the division behind Juan Diaz and when Campbell beat Diaz people thought he was behind Nate Campbell.

Nobody thought Witter or Paulie was above Hatton only Witter and Paulie themselves and we all know how both of them are up there own asses.

Hatton was the clear number 1 while Casamayor wasn't. Many people begged to differ at Joel.

When Ricky beat Kostya, MANY people considered him no.2 behind Floyd at 140. Even though Floyd was CLEARLY a better fighter than Ricky, Ricky was still THE MAN because he beat THE MAN. Simple as.

You see it is the same with Casa.

Casa was the man from when he beat Diego Corrales. Just because people rated Diaz a better fighter doesn't give him claim to the "man that beat the man" throne.

Exactly. the argument on both sides is flawed. To be undisputed you have to go through most of your top competition at THAT weight. The paralles to Casa and Hatton are uncanny. I'm a big Joe Calzghe fan, but I certainly con't consider him undisputed no.1 at LH, but he is at SM.

Number 1 at lightweight will remain vacant in my eyes until it's sorted in the ring.

On a side note, hope JMM against Nate next, be a travesty if Juan gets a shot at JMM before Nate, JD is young enough to wait for his shot, and went to the back of the queu after losing to Campbell.

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I am sure it has been stated already... But my take on it is this.

You got Casa as champ. All-be-it a champ who has had a couple gifts. Now a dethroned champ. Now JMM beats him up... convincingly...

You've got J Diaz... He clears out the division loses to Nate. Kudos Nate your the champ.

So its the man who beat the man(JMM)... vs the man who beat the man who beat everybody (Nate).

Pac came in there and beat a somebody. And, although Pac beat JMM in another division AND only slightly (or not according to some) you have to give JMM credit for beating a tougher bigger stronger higher ranking opponent.

As for P4P that is where you'll see Pac above him until JMM gets the Win...

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I do not agree

Campbell is number 1 as he is the unified champion

Manny Pacquiao is number 2 as WBC champ and the man who recently beat Marquez

Juan Manuel Marquez is lucky to get the number 3 spot IMO cuz I think Baby Bull Diaz has done more than him at the weight .

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I do not agree

Campbell is number 1 as he us teh unified champion

Manny Pacquiao is number 2 as WBC champ and the man who recently beat Marquez

Juan Manuel Marquez is lucky to get the number 3 spot IMO cuz I think Baby Bull Diaz has done more than him at the weight .