< David Haye vs. Monte Barrett > It's go time... Let's talk it out.

[piye]

Well you just added to things...By trying to act as though the criticizim is un warrented just opened a huge point and a point that was already being made...

1. Knocking down Barrett 5 times is not really a huge thing...he was KO'd by Couser....a second rate journeyman

2. If he can be made to fight Barretts fight and not allow himself to remain poised and stick to HIS game plan against a gate keeper WTF is he supposed to do against Vitaly?....Are you going to say that if he was in a fight with Vitaly he would handle himself different because he knows he would have to?...Or some other bullshit.....

Haye was sloppy...Had nothing to do with Barrett...Haye swung for the fences far to often throughout the bout.....His damn left was so low he might as well of not even had one for defense because if he kept it that low against Vitaly...The Dr would take his head off with a straight right....

I agree Haye will create some excitement in the HW division...His trash talk alone will draw fans but fact is he is not on the level of either Klitschko...Both are too big....Vitaly if he choose to "Drag Haye into a brawl"...would not go down 5 times...(Not at all)....he would muscle Haye anywhere he wants....

Truth is IMO Sam Peter KO's Haye the first time he connects with a right to the head full tilt.....

Haye has a future but he is not ready to fight atop the HW division....The real big guys are too strong for Haye and the fact he is so easily "Drawn into a brawl"....He would be his own worst enemy

Seems as though you are letting your emotions get the better of you. I have watched Hayes entire career as I purchased his career set have you? ok well anyway I know that he can stick to a game plan he allowed himself to be dragged into a brawl as he knew he would win. He would not take the same mentality into the ring with either Klitscho brother.

No I don't let my emotions get the better of me when assessing a fighter...I go by performances and what they are doing in the ring....You are using fanboy mentality....

You show your fanboy mentality by saying things such as "I have his career set do you?".....As if you are a kid showing off his new bike.....give it a break....If the guy allows someone like Barrett to make them fight his fight then someone the caliber of Vitaly would certainly have no problem....

But just to save you from any further headaches of trying to defend your fighter I will just put it straight..

Haye does not have the punching power to stop Vitaly...(neither does anyone else in the division).....He will not outbox Vitaly...He will not outslug Vitaly....He can not beat Vitaly simple as that

Oh please. I'm a grown man I'm not a 'fanboy' nor do I follow internet lingo; the purpose of me identifying that I have the David Haye box set was to let you know I have seen every single fight I have many other Box sets also not all of fighters I am a fan of.

Now having watched every fight boxers like Mormeck and Fragomeni (I'm not saying they are better than the Klitscho brothers) had a good enough amount of respect from Haye to ensure he sticks to his game plan until the knockout! My point was just because Haye didn't display that amount of respect here in one fight does not show his inability to stick to a game plan or be calm etc.

You have made an assessment of athletic ability based upon how many fights? where as I have made my assessment based on a career.