< David Haye vs. Monte Barrett > It's go time... Let's talk it out.

[DaxxKahn]

Oh please. I'm a grown man I'm not a 'fanboy' nor do I follow internet lingo; the purpose of me identifying that I have the David Haye box set was to let you know I have seen every single fight I have many other Box sets also not all of fighters I am a fan of.

Now having watched every fight boxers like Mormeck and Fragomeni (I'm not saying they are better than the Klitscho brothers) had a good enough amount of respect from Haye to ensure he sticks to his game plan until the knockout! My point was just because Haye didn't display that amount of respect here in one fight does not show his inability to stick to a game plan or be calm etc.

You have made an assessment of athletic ability based upon how many fights? where as I have made my assessment based on a career.

Firstoff "Fanboy" is not just internet lingo...There are biased announcers that exibit the same thing at times.....

If you actually believe that I have only seen one of Hayes fights and judge him on that alone then you just add to the Fanboy mentality IMO you are approaching your opinion of Haye with.....

If you actually read everything I said about Haye you would see I never said he always fought like that I used the fight with Barrett as a point on how he can not act if he ever expects to succeed in the HW division and if he is getting overzealous with a guy like Barrett and allowing a guy like Barrett to make him fight that erratic then what will he do when a genuine hard hitting mega HW is in there tapping him...

Fighters like many fans do not seem to realize the power difference between the CW division even the hardest of bangers and that of a 6'5" or 6'6" 245lb HW...or even one at 6'2" and 225lbs...whatis considered a light hitter in the HW ranks can be a power puncher in the CW division....

A fighter taste power he is not used to he can lose control...very easily....add that power coming from a man with skill and control that makes it even more dangerous....

Both klitschkos have that power..they hit hard for even heavyweights...Vitaly is especially brutal when he wants to be...He can also take the punches of the divisions biggest hitters and walk through them....Peter could not phase him..(Regardless of peoples opp of his chin or skill set the man can hit hard)....Lennox who was a huge puncher could not take him off his feet...

Vitaly is skilled...I believe he may have the highest KO% in the sport among champions i know he is over 90%......

He can box...he will be ugly if need be...he has no problem with fighting close nor waiting for the big shot to land......

I don't give a shit if you have seen Hayes fights 200 times and reenacted them in your backyard while drinking beer with your buddies...fact is

Unless Vitaly Klitschko goes in with 2 broke arms....David Haye can not beat the man....

The best thing about Haye is.. he accepts and admits his weaknesses.

Haye said: "Barrett's jabs were the equivalent of a cruiserweight’s right hand. That is something I’ve got to get comfortable with.”

“I’m nowhere near the finished article, but I’m getting there. I will be the finished article in a couple of years and I will be unstoppable.”

I have heard Haye after many of his fights and he is almost like PBF...An asshole until the fight and after he is a gent....I do give him credit for admitting his weaknesses...Shows he is not as full of himself as many think...

But with that being said...

Haye pretty much answered much of the debate with Piye...If he can admit a guy like Barretts jabs were like most cruisers right hands just imagine the effect of one of the better punchers..especially Vitaly....

In a way with his statement of knowing it will be a few years he is almost saying that he knows he is not ready for either of the Brothers Grimm...But he is marketing himself

[Fenster]

Firstoff "Fanboy" is not just internet lingo...There are biased announcers that exibit the same thing at times.....

If you actually believe that I have only seen one of Hayes fights and judge him on that alone then you just add to the Fanboy mentality IMO you are approaching your opinion of Haye with.....

If you actually read everything I said about Haye you would see I never said he always fought like that I used the fight with Barrett as a point on how he can not act if he ever expects to succeed in the HW division and if he is getting overzealous with a guy like Barrett and allowing a guy like Barrett to make him fight that erratic then what will he do when a genuine hard hitting mega HW is in there tapping him...

Fighters like many fans do not seem to realize the power difference between the CW division even the hardest of bangers and that of a 6'5" or 6'6" 245lb HW...or even one at 6'2" and 225lbs...whatis considered a light hitter in the HW ranks can be a power puncher in the CW division....

A fighter taste power he is not used to he can lose control...very easily....add that power coming from a man with skill and control that makes it even more dangerous....

Both klitschkos have that power..they hit hard for even heavyweights...Vitaly is especially brutal when he wants to be...He can also take the punches of the divisions biggest hitters and walk through them....Peter could not phase him..(Regardless of peoples opp of his chin or skill set the man can hit hard)....Lennox who was a huge puncher could not take him off his feet...

Vitaly is skilled...I believe he may have the highest KO% in the sport among champions i know he is over 90%......

He can box...he will be ugly if need be...he has no problem with fighting close nor waiting for the big shot to land......

I don't give a shit if you have seen Hayes fights 200 times and reenacted them in your backyard while drinking beer with your buddies...fact is

Unless Vitaly Klitschko goes in with 2 broke arms....David Haye can not beat the man....

The best thing about Haye is.. he accepts and admits his weaknesses.

Haye said: "Barrett's jabs were the equivalent of a cruiserweight’s right hand. That is something I’ve got to get comfortable with.”

“I’m nowhere near the finished article, but I’m getting there. I will be the finished article in a couple of years and I will be unstoppable.”

I have heard Haye after many of his fights and he is almost like PBF...An asshole until the fight and after he is a gent....I do give him credit for admitting his weaknesses...Shows he is not as full of himself as many think...

But with that being said...

Haye pretty much answered much of the debate with Piye...If he can admit a guy like Barretts jabs were like most cruisers right hands just imagine the effect of one of the better punchers..especially Vitaly....

In a way with his statement of knowing it will be a few years he is almost saying that he knows he is not ready for either of the Brothers Grimm...But he is marketing himself

I wouldn't give him much chance against Vitali (much as in NO chance).. he has a chance against Wlad though.. Haye certainly hits hard enough to exploit anyone with a suspect chin.

[El Kabong]

We don't know about that at the heavyweight division...sorry KO-ing Monte Barrett doesn't mean much after Couser did it...and to a lesser extent Valuev

[Kirkland Laing]

The best thing about Haye is.. he accepts and admits his weaknesses.

Haye said: "Barrett's jabs were the equivalent of a cruiserweight’s right hand. That is something I’ve got to get comfortable with.”

“I’m nowhere near the finished article, but I’m getting there. I will be the finished article in a couple of years and I will be unstoppable.”

I have heard Haye after many of his fights and he is almost like PBF...An asshole until the fight and after he is a gent....I do give him credit for admitting his weaknesses...Shows he is not as full of himself as many think...

But with that being said...

Haye pretty much answered much of the debate with Piye...If he can admit a guy like Barretts jabs were like most cruisers right hands just imagine the effect of one of the better punchers..especially Vitaly....

In a way with his statement of knowing it will be a few years he is almost saying that he knows he is not ready for either of the Brothers Grimm...But he is marketing himself

I wouldn't give him much chance against Vitali (much as in NO chance).. he has a chance against Wlad though.. Haye certainly hits hard enough to exploit anyone with a suspect chin.

You can't call that chin suspect anymore, it got found guilty a long time ago.