Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
It wasn't that early in his career. He was 22-0 for the Munguia fight and 23-0 for the Al Hamidi fight. The Hamidi fight is 3 years after he won the WBC Youth Title, and i think this is what people are getting at with his record. He hasn't kicked on at all, probably through no fault of his own. He's been a pro for almost 7 years and he's still messing about with average domestic fighters.

I fail to see how he can move up to 140 and face a big and talented 140lber, who can dig to boot, and you'd be confident in him winning. Surely you can see why people have little belief in him doing well against Ortiz, or any other decent Light-Welterweight?

His style is about pressure, work-rate and breaking his opponents will. He's ok doing that domestically at 135, but doing that at world level at 140 is a massive jump.
hes a bit more than ok at it

but yep, i can see how people have their opinions

I also think its very easy to come to that conclusion when you see ortiz fighting in the glitter rings in america on big bills and murray on the undercard on itv, but lets see murray stood next to ortiz, lets see the size difference, and lets see how ortiz reacts when murray keeps coming

It doesnt look like the ortiz fight will ever happen, but im looking forward to seeing murray step up and by the sounds of things it is on the horrizon