Ortiz v Murray could be on the Khan v Maidana undercard!

[erics44]

Well that is you fella, end of the day I have put across why I think he hasn't got a
chance until the last reply where you say:

"Murray is a very determind hard man, ortiz heart has been broken before, i think murray could do it again"

That is the first bit of hard info you have given, prior to that it was your great knowledge of Murray that set you apart from the rest of us but then the cracks of this knowledge stared to appear when you said he has never looked like loosing, when he has already had one gift in his career. Like I say I have met and spoke to John and his trainer Joe few times great guys so this anti Brit bollocks you seen to have your knickers in a twist with does not exist only in your mind.

yep, thats my great knowledge of murray

and ive watched the fight and it wasnt a gift, wasnt a vintage performance but definately didnt deserve to loose

again dude, i think you are still a little upset because there is no give, against ortiz you say murray will loose and has no chance, i say murray could win and his biggest worry is early power,

dont forget we arent just talking about ortiz, it is your opinion that Murray doesnt have a chance at world level, not enough movement, not enough power, struggles with movement, etc

and whether you are friends with him or not, that doesnt mean your opinion of his chances can be taken as more valid than mine or anybody elses

My mate phil works in a large supermarket, doesnt mean i know more about stacking shelves than you

[skel1983]

Well that is you fella, end of the day I have put across why I think he hasn't got a
chance until the last reply where you say:

"Murray is a very determind hard man, ortiz heart has been broken before, i think murray could do it again"

That is the first bit of hard info you have given, prior to that it was your great knowledge of Murray that set you apart from the rest of us but then the cracks of this knowledge stared to appear when you said he has never looked like loosing, when he has already had one gift in his career. Like I say I have met and spoke to John and his trainer Joe few times great guys so this anti Brit bollocks you seen to have your knickers in a twist with does not exist only in your mind.

yep, thats my great knowledge of murray

and ive watched the fight and it wasnt a gift, wasnt a vintage performance but definately didnt deserve to loose

again dude, i think you are still a little upset because there is no give, against ortiz you say murray will loose and has no chance, i say murray could win and his biggest worry is early power,

dont forget we arent just talking about ortiz, it is your opinion that Murray doesnt have a chance at world level, not enough movement, not enough power, struggles with movement, etc

and whether you are friends with him or not, that doesnt mean your opinion of his chances can be taken as more valid than mine or anybody elses

My mate phil works in a large supermarket, doesnt mean i know more about stacking shelves than you

Do you just read little snippets off each post the digest them in your own little world? Where did I say my knowledge of Murray is superior to yours because I no him? My point and my reference to knowing Murray was the fact you seem to have a a little problem with people not bigging British fighters up because they are " British " so I made the point I know him I get on with him so if anything if I was bias I would be blowing smoke up his arse but quite the opposite, he is not world class at the end of the day and we will bump this thread when the day comes or if it comes when he steps up.

[erics44]

Well that is you fella, end of the day I have put across why I think he hasn't got a
chance until the last reply where you say:

"Murray is a very determind hard man, ortiz heart has been broken before, i think murray could do it again"

That is the first bit of hard info you have given, prior to that it was your great knowledge of Murray that set you apart from the rest of us but then the cracks of this knowledge stared to appear when you said he has never looked like loosing, when he has already had one gift in his career. Like I say I have met and spoke to John and his trainer Joe few times great guys so this anti Brit bollocks you seen to have your knickers in a twist with does not exist only in your mind.

yep, thats my great knowledge of murray

and ive watched the fight and it wasnt a gift, wasnt a vintage performance but definately didnt deserve to loose

again dude, i think you are still a little upset because there is no give, against ortiz you say murray will loose and has no chance, i say murray could win and his biggest worry is early power,

dont forget we arent just talking about ortiz, it is your opinion that Murray doesnt have a chance at world level, not enough movement, not enough power, struggles with movement, etc

and whether you are friends with him or not, that doesnt mean your opinion of his chances can be taken as more valid than mine or anybody elses

My mate phil works in a large supermarket, doesnt mean i know more about stacking shelves than you

Do you just read little snippets off each post the digest them in your own little world? Where did I say my knowledge of Murray is superior to yours because I no him? My point and my reference to knowing Murray was the fact you seem to have a a little problem with people not bigging British fighters up because they are " British " so I made the point I know him I get on with him so if anything if I was bias I would be blowing smoke up his arse but quite the opposite, he is not world class at the end of the day and we will bump this thread when the day comes or if it comes when he steps up.

nope, you keep saying my knowledge of murray is rubbish and you keep saying you know murray, it seemed like you were linking the two

as i have said from the start, i am looking forward to his step up and i think he has a very good chance of making it

and i'll be supporting him all the way

[skel1983]

Well that is you fella, end of the day I have put across why I think he hasn't got a
chance until the last reply where you say:

"Murray is a very determind hard man, ortiz heart has been broken before, i think murray could do it again"

That is the first bit of hard info you have given, prior to that it was your great knowledge of Murray that set you apart from the rest of us but then the cracks of this knowledge stared to appear when you said he has never looked like loosing, when he has already had one gift in his career. Like I say I have met and spoke to John and his trainer Joe few times great guys so this anti Brit bollocks you seen to have your knickers in a twist with does not exist only in your mind.

yep, thats my great knowledge of murray

and ive watched the fight and it wasnt a gift, wasnt a vintage performance but definately didnt deserve to loose

again dude, i think you are still a little upset because there is no give, against ortiz you say murray will loose and has no chance, i say murray could win and his biggest worry is early power,

dont forget we arent just talking about ortiz, it is your opinion that Murray doesnt have a chance at world level, not enough movement, not enough power, struggles with movement, etc

and whether you are friends with him or not, that doesnt mean your opinion of his chances can be taken as more valid than mine or anybody elses

My mate phil works in a large supermarket, doesnt mean i know more about stacking shelves than you

Do you just read little snippets off each post the digest them in your own little world? Where did I say my knowledge of Murray is superior to yours because I no him? My point and my reference to knowing Murray was the fact you seem to have a a little problem with people not bigging British fighters up because they are " British " so I made the point I know him I get on with him so if anything if I was bias I would be blowing smoke up his arse but quite the opposite, he is not world class at the end of the day and we will bump this thread when the day comes or if it comes when he steps up.

nope, you keep saying my knowledge of murray is rubbish and you keep saying you know murray, it seemed like you were linking the two

as i have said from the start, i am looking forward to his step up and i think he has a very good chance of making it

and i'll be supporting him all the way

I wasn't linking the two but come on you have to admit for a Murray fan your knowledge of his career is not the best.

[erics44]

I wasn't linking the two but come on you have to admit for a Murray fan your knowledge of his career is not the best.

you keep saying my knowledge of murray is crap

the only reason you have given me is coz i said he hasnt come close to loosing and the evidence is the ice cream man fight, you said he was gifted a win, he wasnt, it was close but he deserved to win and if that is the closest he has come to loosing he hasnt come close to loosing

i saw that fight on tv when it happened and i didnt think he lost then and i dont now

you keep saying murray has no chance at world level, well i think this is more evidence that my knowledge of murray is better than yours

[skel1983]

I wasn't linking the two but come on you have to admit for a Murray fan your knowledge of his career is not the best.

you keep saying my knowledge of murray is crap

the only reason you have given me is coz i said he hasnt come close to loosing and the evidence is the ice cream man fight, you said he was gifted a win, he wasnt, it was close but he deserved to win and if that is the closest he has come to loosing he hasnt come close to loosing

i saw that fight on tv when it happened and i didnt think he lost then and i dont now

you keep saying murray has no chance at world level, well i think this is more evidence that my knowledge of murray is better than yours

So in the space of 24 hours you have gone from you might watch the fight with the Ice Cream man, to now saying you saw it live on tv? Which one is it?

[JazMerkin]

I wasn't linking the two but come on you have to admit for a Murray fan your knowledge of his career is not the best.

you keep saying my knowledge of murray is crap

the only reason you have given me is coz i said he hasnt come close to loosing and the evidence is the ice cream man fight, you said he was gifted a win, he wasnt, it was close but he deserved to win and if that is the closest he has come to loosing he hasnt come close to loosing

i saw that fight on tv when it happened and i didnt think he lost then and i dont now

you keep saying murray has no chance at world level, well i think this is more evidence that my knowledge of murray is better than yours

So in the space of 24 hours you have gone from you might watch the figh with the Ice Cream man, to now saying you saw it live on tv? Which one is it?

Uh-oh, Skel has got Eric on the ropes!

[erics44]

I wasn't linking the two but come on you have to admit for a Murray fan your knowledge of his career is not the best.

you keep saying my knowledge of murray is crap

the only reason you have given me is coz i said he hasnt come close to loosing and the evidence is the ice cream man fight, you said he was gifted a win, he wasnt, it was close but he deserved to win and if that is the closest he has come to loosing he hasnt come close to loosing

i saw that fight on tv when it happened and i didnt think he lost then and i dont now

you keep saying murray has no chance at world level, well i think this is more evidence that my knowledge of murray is better than yours

So in the space of 24 hours you have gone from you might watch the figh with the Ice Cream man, to now saying you saw it live on tv? Which one is it?

i didnt recognise the name dude, having watched it again i remembered the cut and having checked further i realised it was on the undercard of the witter bradley fight which i watched round my mate Johns (not john murray another john)

look man, the further this thread continues the further you are fighting a loosing battle, murray has a chance at world level of that there is no doubt, and i wouldnt say my knowledge of john murray is at the pinacle but i have seen enough of his fights to know that he has a chance

you saying he doesnt have a chance is pretty far off the mark