Eric why is he bothered if Ortiz beat Murray? You seem to have another agenda mate, you seem to pissed when a Brit fighter gets dismissed when being talked about at world level

I say how I see it, like Jaz I don't care where there from I am a boxing fan not a British patriot who gets dressed in my Union Jack tux and start claiming we have a gem on our hands when he can't even stop a super featherweight yourkshire man and needs the ref to stop it for him, this sounds like I am hating on John Murray far from it the guy is pure class but I don't talk shit because he is from the Uk.

John Murray is a decent pro whose style will come unstuck at world level especailly against someone like Ortiz, Murray hasn't even fought a top 40 fighter imo, hopefully he signs with Warren get him in with Mitchell and we will see what sort of level he is at.

But like i keep saying when he is struggling to get rid of European bums with 7 defeats and super featherweight English title holders and only stopping them because they are not fireing back and the ref is stepping in, he wasn't hurting these last two lads and they were basic fighters,John Murrays style at world level would only be succesful if he had some pop or some killer body shots but he just hasn't got the power for that, Ortiz and such woud and could out box him but they would also beat him at his own game he is not strong/powerful enough at that level to bully the likes of Ortiz/Marquez/Diaz/Rios.