Well that is you fella, end of the day I have put across why I think he hasn't got a
chance until the last reply where you say:
"Murray is a very determind hard man, ortiz heart has been broken before, i think murray could do it again"
That is the first bit of hard info you have given, prior to that it was your great knowledge of Murray that set you apart from the rest of us but then the cracks of this knowledge stared to appear when you said he has never looked like loosing, when he has already had one gift in his career. Like I say I have met and spoke to John and his trainer Joe few times great guys so this anti Brit bollocks you seen to have your knickers in a twist with does not exist only in your mind.

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